Re:Hah. (Score 1)

Man wants to be greater then a man? Is that a good thing? In my opinion it could make us worth less then what most of us deem as 'animals'. We have ideals; yes we sacrifice a lot for them, including other people's freedom to pursue their own ideals, the rights of animals to life torment free to suit our own purposes, and even the lives of others of our on species at times. And in the end what are these ideals of ours? Someone in a reply mentioned going into space. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but the majority of our ideals have lead to little more then pissing contest to prove how much we know and how much better we are then what we deem to be animals. Oh and did I mention that another thing we sacrifice for our ideals is the overuse of limited resources we are given on our planet to an extent that many believe the planet isn't even able to sustain our way of life anymore? Granted if other creatures had the power to do so they would probably be the same way, but we do have the power to do so, and have decimated other species in our path and are quiet possibly on a path to destruction from our own greed of ideals. In my mind this doesn't quite put us on the same level as other creatures that can co-exist in a sustainable eco-system, though it doesn't really quite make us better than them either. And if you want an example of why human ideals aren't all that great that doesn't require other creatures. Don't forget at one point we considered other races as inferior and also non-human simply because we didn't understand their way of life and they seemed 'uncivilized', labeling them as less then human and using them as slaves. To some extent this mentality still exists today. Also if you compare the cost of your own life to someone living in poverty in a lesser developed country, you are effectively saying your current style of life is worth more then the handful of lives that could have been saved from malnutrition using the same amount of money to sustain your life style. These are the ideals of man. What is an animal, what isn't, what deserves to live (monkies, whales and dolphins come to mind) and what deserves to be caged/farmed, are all labels we came up with ourselves in order to enable us to feel better about our daily lives (wether by science or religion). I always wonder in the ID argument, where something greater created life so sophisticated (well, compared to what they think we can explain, sophisticated is relative after all), that the creators couldn't come up with a better system to support the life it created. Life support systems that don't require killing of other living things? (Photosynthesis comes to mind). A planet with faster regenerating resources for life sustainability? (again this reminds me of my comment on our ideals). Certainly I, in my limited knowledge of how the world even works, let alone others, think there are better forms/systems of life that can be created. But then again, maybe we're just a test subject like Petri dishes in a laboratory designed to see how long our form of life can survive with meager resources. Hopefully I am wrong about the subject, but I do feel that man is full of himself when he decides he is better than animals simply because of meager ideals which in the end are mostly pissing contest, and are blind sighted to the issue of sustainability. But I do hope we evolve from such thinking one day, hopefully it will allow us to become more peaceful (and each other) with the world around us as opposed to thinking we have the right to destroy the majority of the planet and its species because we want to put up another city so we can breed more of ourselves. Ie. I Hope our 'ideals' change (and to some extent, I believe it has already begun to). But classifying ourselves as better then animals because of our ideals? I don't think we're quite there yet.