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Comment Re:Wow, that's a long term study (Score -1) 203

To the deniers: If we agree on nothing else can we at least agree on continuing to fund well planned scientific studies on the climate?

You mean like for years now people have been asking for more scientific consideration of solar activity as it relates to environmental issues because we have a ton of anecdotal evidence across all of history indicating patterns of sun activity and weather/agricultural events? No... we're told that's settled because someone did a calculation that proves it. Don't even mention solar cycles because it's like you are living on a flat earth.

To the people of hubris: How about you actually provide a working model of climate that can be used to make accurate, timely, and verifiable claims. You would go a long way in selling your truth if you actually provided some. Physics gives us equations that can calculate things from sub-atomic quantum waves to speculative activity outside our knowable universe. Climate science gives us a graph with a bunch of lines that don't ever meet reality.

Yes. Science. Real science.

Comment Re:When will people finally realize (Score 1) 153

Personally I think a big part is property distribution. Proudhon was very skeptical of limitless property rights and the ability to gate everything up. The Greeks had this same issue as I understand it. They had a system of perpetually slicing up land for heirs that eventually failed due to inefficiency.

To sustain life one must either go into nature and pluck from it or work the land until such a time can be made. Either action requires the land to do so. In today's world no one is capable of just going onto land to live. That means as a human being you are now required to perform completely unnatural actions to sustain basic functions. You must have some source of income which will probably be a job. This job is not directly related to your own fulfillment and ability to provide for yourself. It is an abstract that is a small cog of some much larger machine called "society".

Personally all I see with that set up are problems because it locks people into a system that they may not necessarily want to either participate in or are even capable of doing so. Now you bring out the social safety net but no one asked for that, really because it means more entanglement in a system that was never wanted in the first place.

Now imagine that if you lost your job you could go work some land without asking permission from anyone. That's a whole different proposition.

Comment Denver area (Score 3, Insightful) 88

We've had it here for a while. My apartment complex has notified us twice that they Amazon service not only refuses to deliver to the door like FedEx and UPS but the delivery person just dumps packages in the office without notifying anyone or getting a signature. When I first saw the white vans with the Amazon logo I couldn't help but noticed the "Enterprise" sticker on the back. I guess they rent locally instead of owning a fleet? Maybe that was just a trial. Absolutely crazy logistics.

Comment Re:Funny (Score 1) 131

I was speaking more in the sense of as to if these things should be regulated, or restricted in some way.

Don't buy it. You don't need someone else doing this for you and having a device like this in your home isn't a broad social concern. *You* have the power to regulate it by simply not participating in this activity.

Comment Re:We're jamming (Score 1) 275

I'm saying it was very effective. I just mentioned it because the concept isn't new and pointed to the Greeks as an implementer of the idea. They also put people to death like we do. Socrates was ordered to ingest hemlock by Athenian vote, if memory serves.

The thing is you don't have to be a citizen of any polis for this to be effective. Humans are tribal by nature because we can specialize to add benefit to the entire group. Ostracism is very effective because none of these specializations allow you to prosper as an individual. The burden of self-sufficiency is pretty extreme in nature. Even animals rely on pack behavior and interactions with other species as a survival mechanism.

Arguably it would have been easier to ostracize in ancient times due to lower populations and the idea that borders were basically infinite. I think it is still an interesting strategy. We basically ostracize by putting people into prison, but this is an internal ostracism that we must guard and thus expend resources on. Outward ostracism requires a border defense which you already have anyway.

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