I understand your point as a classic textbook libertarian from the 1800 century or some were back then, how ever i don't agree with you at all, first you seem to come to the conclusion that if there is any form of governance then you might as well give up all of your rights??, i think this logic is very black and white, very very simplistic, The world is a bit more complex. I do personal believe we need some form of collective regulation in order to protect the individual, such as regulations on food production and use of chemicals and protection against abuse of power by individuals ore organisations, and on many more areas. I believe, that in order to pursue your own happiness, you need a stable and secure society, Humans are not always rational ore good we need to have a common rule book if we wish to live side by side in peace, hens legislation can be a good thing, even much legislation. The other thing about h2so4 i relay don't understand, if it is something religious about abortion, i can only say i am happy to live in a plays were i am free to be an atheist

But Finland has a better Economy then USA, a lower debt, and a higher standard of living, a much lover crime rate and fewer in prison, and on and on. please go to CIA world fact book and check your facts. Finland is a much better country to live in on all most all areas, and despite being heavily regulated by the government, they would consider them self living in a much more liberal country then the us. Freedom is not only about money. again please go to CIA world fact book and check it out, I have never heard any ting as ignorant and stupid then the words you have put in this tread, I really hope you are trolling,