Comment Re: You know it kind of bugs me (Score 1) 117
It may be that you define their pre-installed apps as not crapware, but that's a judgement call, not a statement of technical fact.
Oh no! You can't remove... *checks* the app for moto actions, and an app for notifications!
What I'm talking about is bundled apps like Faceboot. They can be removed.
You don't even buy a Moto phone unless you want Moto actions, so yeah it's a judgement call, but if you already made the call to buy Moto, then you've already made the other call as well.
Also, a bunch of Google Apps. Moto bundles those as well. You apparently don't consider them crapware, but other people disagree.
As for Facebook, etc, there's another class of "virtually pre-installed" apps (I forget what the actual term is) which aren't actually part of the system image. Instead, the system image has a list of apps the device will automatically download and install after factory reset, so they're present by default but you actually can remove them. Whether Facebook is really pre-installed, virtually pre-installed or not pre-installed depends, of course, on the OEM and how much Facebook is paying them.
Google's terms mandate, of course, that even pre-installed apps can be disabled. OEMs are not allowed to block that.