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Comment Yet another religous apologist? (Score 1) 1123

So, what's Elaine Ecklund's religion?

Religion has absolutely no place in science. When religion gets the chance, as has been shown again and again, it tries to tell us unscientific facts about the world.
To say that religion doesn't make any claims about the physical world is either false, or produces a religion with nothing in it.

Can't we just outgrow fairy tales as a way to explain the world already?

Comment Re:Subset of logic, debate (Score 1) 1142

Debate is in no way a subset of logic.
You could call it a subset of rhetoric (from wikipedia: Rhetoric normally explains the three arts of using language as a means to persuade.), though.

I wonder if the debate classes usually taught in US schools actually harms students' logical and skeptical thinking? A winner of a debate need in no way have the facts on his/her side, he/she just needs to be more persuasive and a better speaker.


Submission + - Tracker OiNK raided

b4stard writes: Popular bittorrent tracker OiNK, arguably the finest source for downloading music on the internets, has been raided by police, admin arrested. From the article:

Jeremy Banks, Head of the IFPI's Internet Anti-Piracy Unit, said in a reponse to the news: "OiNK was central to the illegal distribution of pre-release music online. This was not a case of friends sharing music for pleasure. This was a worldwide network that got hold of music they did not own the rights to and posted it online."
Please join me in a few minutes of prayer for the destruction of the IFPI and the BPI and for general badness befalling their executives.
GNU is Not Unix

Submission + - Shall Monsoon avert SFLC lawsuit? (redoracle.com)

An anonymous reader writes: On Thursday 20 September the Software Freedom Law Center (SFLC) announced the filing against Monsoon Multimedia company of the first U.S copyright noncompliance, on the basis of violating the GNU General Public License on behalf of the developers of BusyBox, but today Monsoon Multimedia said that it will make the BusyBox source code available on its Myhava Web site "in the coming weeks".

Submission + - Google eyeing its own 'Second Life?'

Nashsen writes: For some time now, CNET News.com team has been hearing whispers that Google might be looking to get into the virtual world space, particularly in light of the increasing interest of existing environments like Second Life, and the success of Google Earth and the search giant's purchase of the Sketchup technology.

According to TechCrunch, Google may already be testing its own 3D virtual world technology, in a secret experiment at Arizona State University.

Submission + - Germany to build new maglev railway. (bbc.co.uk)

EWAdams writes: "According to the BBC, the Bavarian state government has announced that it has signed an agreement with Deutsche Bahn, the German state railway system, and the Transrapid consortium, to provide a maglev railway between central Munich and its airport. The only other maglev in full operation at the moment is in Shanghai, again as a city-to-airport service. No completion date has been announced."

Submission + - Microsoft coup against iso standards body (www.idg.se)

bytewize writes: "Today the iso standards body here in Sweden has accepted ooxml as a standard. It seems that a number of Microsoft partners joined the body just before the vote and managed to swing the vote in Microsoft's faviour. IBM walked out and refused to vote. If this is what we can expect in the future then the iso standards body might just as well pack up and close shop. Nobody should be able to buy acceptance of a standard. It should become a standard based entirely on its own merits."

Submission + - Microsoft buys the Swedish vote on OOXML (os2world.com)

CoolCat writes: From the site: "As bad as it sound it currently looks like that the vote that took place at the SIS, Swedish Standards Institute, was a total joke due to the facts that 23 new companies applied to take part of today's voting and most of them in favour of Microsoft agenda. One would think that SIS would not accept new companies to participate in the vote since they haven't been part of the earlier discussions and meetings. But according to SIS they didn't see any problem that new companies wanted to take part in this vote without prior notice. So what happened here is that Microsoft gather together a bunch of loyal partners that would vote yes to their standard without any questions."

Submission + - Microsoft buys the Swedish vote on OOXML (www.idg.se)

Valpis writes: When SIS (Swedish Standards Institute ) should vote yes or no to OOXML as a standard the result became yes. The group consisted earlier of 11 companies and the result was supposed to be no. But the last couple of days several companies recieved letters from Microsoft urging them to join SIS (cost only $2000) and vote yes so in the last days 25 more companies joined, most of the microsoft partners,some even the same day as the voting took place. The list of the companies can be found on http://www.idg.se/2.1085/1.118249 (in swedish).

Submission + - Microsoft bought Swedens ISO vote on OOXML ?

a_n_d_e_r_s writes: The vote on OOXML looked fairly secured for a No vote in Sweden. Most in the Working Group In Sweden was against the vote to approve OOXML. Suddenly on the day of the vote more companies showed up at the door, some 20 more companies — each one payed about $2500 to be allowed to vote — and vote they did. Most of the new companies was strangely enough partners from Microsoft who suddenly out of the blue joined the working group, payed membership fees and voted yes for approval.

From being a fairly negative group the working group suddely had a huge majority of yay-sayers who voted for Sweden to approve OOXML as an ISO standard.

For those that want to buy the Swedish vote on an ISO standard — it only cost about $50 000 — its not too much money for anyone that want there own bought and payed for ISO standard.

This has started to brew in Sweden and the newspapers are right now starting to write about the coup against the SIS — Swedens Standards Institute http://www.sis.se/ . The workings groups position can be changed if the power to be at SIS wants to — so its not over yet.

OS2World writes about it:


Patrik Fältströms blogg about it:


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