Proprietary service drops support for proprietary protocol..

That just means Google is now operating in exactly the same manner that Microsoft used to be when they had dominance over consumer device operating systems. Google now has dominance in the mobile market with Android, and is using that to shove Chrome down people's throats. Personally, the first thing I do with any new phone is download Firefox, just like I did (and still do) with new computers. As the statistics show, though, the vast majority of people don't bother to do that so whatever is the default is what they use. The right and fair thing to do would be to stop them from abusing their monopoly power by offering a choice of browsers at time of install, and not favor their own browser in any way. That would have been the thing to force MS to do as well back when they were being sued for abuse of monopoly power after taking down Netscape with the same tactic. Unfortunately, it didn't happen then and it isn't happening now either. So, Google will continue to dominate the market unless and until some other highly disruptive technology comes along to unseat the current smartphone market and gives another player a chance to enter and eventually dominate the market in a similar fashion.

This is the end of this civilization and the beginnings of the next.

So now you've abandoned the wall of AI-generated text and simply short-circuited into manual nihilism.

Want to know how I can tell? Because neither time have you put in enough effort to realize that we're both identifying the same problems, and the original poster was claiming that "Young people are clearly stupid then" for seeing them and demanding liberal democracy with a robust welfare state.

If you want to decry trolling, look in the mirror and lecture yourself.

An impressive quantity of AI-generated slop. Meanwhile, the proletariat are increasingly willing to burn down the system in the hopes that trying something, anything, will improve their lot they are left behind and/or discarded.

So you get what we have now, where the country is being run by elite arsonists. But it'll get better, surely, right?

Young people hear socialism and see Europe and the Nordic countries where losing your job means you wonâ(TM)t go bankrupt from medical bills.

Young people are clearly stupid then. The Nordic countries have some of the best free-market policies on the planet. ...
  If they didn't have productive economies supported by some of the strongest free-market capitalist policies, they wouldn't be able to afford such a nice welfare state.

Young people are clearly quite on point about this, as your own reply admits. You appear to want a set of glorious free market capitalist policies without much of a social safety net (the "welfare state"). Fuck that Heritage foundation pipe dream, and fuck you for wanting it too.

You can have a reasonably regulated economy where everyone of working age has to fend for themselves, or you can have a much more loosely regulated economy that is taxed so that people of working age are not at the complete mercy of ultracapitalist whims. And in either society must provide for its children (unless you're into eating your economic seed corn for short-term funsies and long-term disaster) and its elderly (because working people into the grave is not popular pretty much everywhere).

Go substantially outside of those options, and you get societal instability that can and does result in an involuntary reordering of those sitting at the top (the French empire, the U.S. guilded age and workers movements, etc.). And some of your free market capitalist peers will happily sell the revolting peasants the rope with which to accomplish that.

No, Apple's EVP has no risk of being put in jail by contesting the court order.

Yes, they did. It's not open for debate, in view of the judge's order:
"The order, filed in the US District Court for the Northern District of California, demands that an Apple official 'personally responsible for ensuring compliance' appear in court on May 27 'if the parties do not file a joint notice that this issue is resolvedâ¦'"

Personally requiring an executive to appear is a big ol' red flag there, buddy.

I think I agree that this is being done in good faith (to the court) pending appeal.

Good faith? It's being done in fear of some Apple EVP being tossed in holding and million dollar fines for contempt being imposed until Apple stopped stalling (16 months after losing its appeal of the injunction to the Supreme Court, and 20 days after the Court imposed sanctions, further restrictions, and made clear that its patience was at an end).

There was no good faith. There is fear of the hammer dropping even harder.

The right doesn't much care about the million birds killed by windmills every year.

No, they just hate wind turbine generators in general.

But they are aware of the environment damage caused by mining the materials to build it, and to dispose of worn out panels, which isn't admitted to by the left.

Coal ash and nuclear waste. Next.

Like the ones that have started more deadly wildfires in California than all other causes combined?

Nope. Those are medium voltage distribution lines. Those 150k kV+ high tension lines on gigantic steel towers are transmission lines.

The only wind power generators farmers love are the small scale ones that maybe power a pump to water their cattle. The big, industrial ones installed by a power company look great until the contract runs out, and they find that the company that paid them for the land to put it on put the responsibility (and expense, which can run more than the farmer was paid in the first place) to tear it down, remove it, and restore the land for farming, after it gets abandoned at the end of its life.

Interesting fictional story, bro. You're wrong, but that's never stopped you.

Try talking to some actual farmers, and you'll find they're not as supportive as you want them to be. Which is why you don't talk to them.

So we're living in opposite world now. Where's your "talking to some actual farmers" evidence, bro?

Not without the subsidies, which are expected to be nearly half a trillion dollars in the next ten years.

Yes, without subsidies.

Nuclear is the only possible future to maintain a civilized standard of living. Most of the left have admitted that in recent years.

Back to opposite world again. Completely false, and no, "most of the left" have not fulfilled this weird fantasy of yours.

Better a hypocrite than a drooling idiot gobbling down whatever propaganda his betters spoon feed him.

But you're literally both. All propaganda, no data.

One might more rightly ascribe the power pinch to the mindless opposition to building infrastructure one finds in some places. And also the suing nuclear plants out of existence, tearing down hydroelectric dams because fish, and general opposition to modernity that very much exists on the environmentalist left.

But they'd be wrong. The right wing has plenty of mindless opposition to building infrastructure. Suing wind and solar farms out of existence, opposing high voltage transmission lines, crying about how farmland is being used when the farmers love wind power generators and, for those who've tried it, agrisolar, but what the hell do they know about running their own land when their neighbors just don't like the looks of things.

Don't blame this stuff on the environmentalist left. Solar and wind are cheaper than anything that you're complaining about now, but you'll whine about how people won't let you build more nuclear boondoggles despite nobody but the insiders being willing to pay the rates for those nuclear boondoggles.

Fucking hypocrite.

Nope. That's why I changed all my players to BlueOS.

Dude, you don't get it. I'm done with you. You appear to literally spend your entire waking day on here arguing with anyone and everyone about everything.

You're inconsequential, and complaining about ignoring positions while making an argument, coming from you, is simply too rich for my blood.

Byeeeeee.

Would you like to guess what your logical fallacy is?

Nope. It would be a waste of time. You'll argue that 2+2 != 4 at this point, which is apparently a technical problem.

Meanwhile, the Rust code is still in, Hellwig can't do anything about it, the rabble will discuss it at will, and you'll just get to live with it.

So after wasting a weekend on this, you've changed nothing. Good job.

Stop huffing your own farts. You have to get oxygen some other way, dude.

A perfect illustration of the point that drinkypoo raised. Staying quiet wouldn't influence parent's behavior one iota, but merely ensure that nothing inconveniences their little bubble.

Well, that is, until they get priced out of their home or drop their insurance like a dumbass, because the capitalists aren't going to subsidize their FAFO costs.

You weird fucking Rust cultists rock.

There it is. The mask slips and the hate comes out. Just another Hellwig.