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Comment Re:Gun owners have been living with this already. (Score 1) 696

>I would be interested in reading about specific cases where the government has raided private citizens for possession of a legal firearm.

See links at bottom of the page.

>That leaves out raids to confiscate, say, fully-automatic machine guns, which most people know are pretty much illegal everywhere in the U.S.A.

Congratulations on knowing that machine guns are fully automatic; many people don't realize that they're the only true "assault" weapons on the market, while semi-automatics are not assault weapons.

BTW, I did say "on the market" because machine guns are legal to own. Ten states have passed laws prohibiting private ownership of machine guns, but there is no Federal prohibition on owning one manufactured and registered prior to 1986 so long as a "pound of flesh" ($200 tax) is paid to the government. You can find more info at http://www.subguns.com/ if you're interested. I post there as BCR #229.

>Also, I think you gun lovers have pretty damn little to complain about in comparison with the cruelly persecuted victims of the US's totally-berserk "war on drugs."

I'll agree that the Fourth Amendment has taken a hard beating in the last few years thanks to the "war on drugs". The difference is that the loss of liberty has occurred fairly quickly (last decade or so), while gun owners have watched their rights erode since the mid 1930's.

>On the other hand, if I ever had to work in a convenience store at night again like I did twenty-five years ago, you can bet your ass I'd get another gun.

Even if you worked in, say, Washington DC, Chicago, or New York, where it is pretty much impossible for you to legally own and/or carry a handgun?

>Even though I don't like guns and I don't own a gun, it does seem to me that if you follow the local laws and regulations for owning a gun, you should not be subjected to having your house raided by the police. But considering the chronic out-of-control behavior of the police in their status as drug-warriors, I can easily believe that gun-owners also see their civil rights abused on a regular basis. So this is an issue in which any citizen who values civil liberties should take an interest.

At least you're thinking logically, not emotionally, about this issue. Too many of the people who don't like guns think they should be banned for precisely that reason.

>So can you provide us with a few links?

Yep.

http://www.boogieonline.com/revolution/firearms/en force/

http://www.hamnet.net/~n4zhg/batfabus.html

Melinda

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