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Award goes to a book due out July 4, Imperial Hubris, by Anonymous, a senior intelligence official.

My favorite quote is the one in which he describes the war in Iraq as "an avaricious, premeditated, unprovoked war against a foe who posed no immediate threat but whose defeat did offer economic advantage."

Anonymous explains that the admin's policy is actually helping Al Qaida, and (presumably with the proverbial tin foil hat firmly in place, I guess you need one in his line of work) predicts a major strike by election day to help keep Dubya in office. "I'm very sure they can't have a better administration for them than the one they have now," he said.

The fact that he has chosen to remain anonymous (which is understandable) leads to some very amusing discussion on the book. My favorite review:

"Anonymous is an extremely knowledgeable, thoughtful, and provocative thinker. His analysis and forecasts about Osama bin Laden, al Qaeda, and terrorism in general are extremely insightful--not to mention accurate." --Faye Bowers, Christian Science Monitor

That may be the first time I've heard an AC referred to as "extremely knowledgeable, thoughtful, and provocative." And, for that matter, it may well be the last. Cool.

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  • once it hits paperback long enough to show up used, which is how I get most of my books, used or discounted. It is unusual though, because allegedly he probably isn't supposed to publish what he has, hence the AC deal.

    I think the whole 9-11/iraq war/terrorism thing is even rottener than most people expect. And more dangerous. I am about convinced it was a reichstagg fire event. The guy thinks that al queda might strike before the election, I think it might be al-guys in suits striking before the election,
    • "once it hits paperback long enough to show up used, which is how I get most of my books, used or discounted. "

      In my opinion that's the ONLY way to get books :) I'll probably read it as well....I wonder if the library has it???

      I agree that situation with iraq is a lot worse than we realize. There is so much we haven't been told.

      • I've found most libraries surprisingly good about asking them to aquire a book. You might try asking them locally. You can also usually request educational videos, and documentaries like in the two above links, and at places like infowars.com are a good thing to get into local circulation. I also encourage people who have broadband and burners to search the p2p networks and find alex jones videos, he allows copying and distribution of his works as long as you don't charge money for them. If you want any of
  • I thought you were referring to this one [slashdot.org].

    Well I liked it, I have yet to read a better refutation and explanation of slash-dot (well any amateur internet blog really) fighting styles.
    • that one was pretty damn good too, I must admit. This guy is a lot more interesting than the typical AC, and unlike the typical AC flamer, he had the maturity to apologize for it, for which I commend him.

      I have actually found this debate with the AC quite interesting. It continues, and I'm glad you're following it.

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        • What I don't understand is why this AC doesn't make an account. I suspect that some sort of devious tactic is being employed here.

          I like your analogy. "The fearless On Lawn, and his loyal sidekick, the AC, partners in crime-fighting and smacking down liberals everywhere!"

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            • AC is someone different than myself. On that you can rest assured.

              And believe me AC complains about my spelling, grammer and fallacies plenty (if its the same AC). I've gotten it much worse than you or FreeJ ever have. But I've learned a lot in my dealings with AC about knowing what you are saying *before* you make the argument, because if there is any crack that AC (I'm sure its been the same one) will thread it with a PeterBuilt tractor-trailer. And there is no shoring it up after that happens.

              And Sam,
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                • Been doing fine...you?

                  Had an interesting study in redundancy and failure scenarios this weekend when I cracked open one car to replace a clutch, and the second got totalled in an accident (no one hurt). There is a third car but its a project car and not ready for the road yet.

                  Then the new clutch I got was defective and it took a day to figure it out and replace it. But hey, for having to spend three vacation days, I've returned to work happy and refreshed. I figure they were well spent.

                  So I can say, I'm
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                    • I don't really get a psyche boost, because I just take it to the dealer and have it fixed. :)

                      So, I'm poorer and not psychologically superior to my car

                      Funny I work on my own car because I'm already poor.

                      And why do you think a car is psychologically superior to you? How hard can 18th and 19th century technology be?

                      I'm not trying to convince you to work on your car, mind you. I'm just curious as to why you are beating yourself up all of a sudden ;)
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                    • My friends have an X-Terra. Its a very well thought out vehicle. I'm amazed sometimes what Nissan can think up next. I miss the 240z. I was tempted to buy one when they re-made them about three years ago.

                      And I am wrong, there's things that are definately 20th century in the car --the computers. Those are intimidating I agree. I hated, but could replace the points on a distributor if I had to. But there is no way I'm opening up an ECU to try to fix it.
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                    • Man you drive further than I do (about 35-40 miles). I'm thinking for a daily commuter that I can get a Smart Fortwo with the turbo diesel. It gets a true 70+ mpg. Then again there are some interesting diesel motorcycles running around also.

                      I really liked the Honda CRV, Honda still has the sharpest engineers of the bunch. If my wife could, she'd by the Accura. She liked it far and away more than the other SUV's we fantacised. I think if I were to be nailed down to buy one I'd get the Dakota. Mostly because
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            • But it seems to defend it's anonymity very staunchly,

              This is the part that I find most mysterious. Why doesn't he register? It's very interesting.

              I like OL's point about tough opposition strengthening an argument. "To oppose a thing is to strengthen it." --Frank Herbert.

              I hope you guys follow this debate I'm having with the AC, if nothing else, just to watch me get my ass kicked. It's very interesting, and I'm having a lot of fun with it.

              This AC reminds me a lot of a guy I knew in high school. In fa

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                • Yeah, I don't like that either. I'm used to being treated with respect by most intelligent people. But I think the discussion with the AC is sufficiently valuable that I am inclined to thicken my skin and take it.

                  What I find most interesting is the raw rage he projects when confronted with a threat to the system of logic. The aneresians know that the paradigm shift is coming, and they are terrified. This is because they are incapable of understanding it, of course, they have nothing at all to fear, exept

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                    • PS (Score:2)

                      by freejung ( 624389 ) *
                      Since it is not defined in the book, the Eschaton is the end of the world fnord. Thus an apocalyptic eschatology, such as the Christian one, for instance, is a belief that the world will end suddenly and violently.

                      Hey, that reminds me, it's friday, I should go off and partake joyously of no hot dog buns.

                      This post is false.

                    • I have no idea what you're talking about

                      ;-)

                      Yeah, I really need to eschew obfuscation. It's just so much fun. This was a very condensed point, using a terminology with which only a Discordian would be familiar.

                      You really need to read the Principia Discordia [cmu.edu] fnord. It is a book of incredible importance, and the full text is online. It's quite short. It is one of the coolest things ever to come out of the Berkeley psychedelic scene of the '60s. Hail Eris!

                      I assume you have never read the "Illuminatus"

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                    • So you have read it? Nice! Then you know what I'm talking about after all? Aneresians are the disciples of order. They are really servants of chaos, of course, due to the second law of thermodynamics, but most of them don't realize that. Their paradigm is immanentizing the eschaton. They don't usually realize that either. However, a paradigm shift is under way which will soon render their paradigm obsolete. Just watch. For ten years or so. You'll see what I mean.
            • If the AC is the same natural person as OnLawn (which I think about 70% likely) then I have to heartily congratulate him on the artistry of his act.

              He and his sidekick usually post closely together in time, but not so closely as to provide any smoking evidence. The AC has better spelling and grammar, and usually has a better argument. The mental discipline required not only to maintain two personas but to let the anonymous identity appear more accomplished than the claimed identity is pretty admirable.

              The
              • Although it would be easy enough for the AC to follow OL, all he has to do is go to OL's user page and look at the comments OL has posted.

                I think they may not be the same person, as they have very distinct personae, but I think they know each other IRL and have a remarkably similar agenda.

                Don't tangle with them. It's completely pointless. Trust me, I know whereof I speak.

  • Personally, I think any terror strike before the election would be the straw that broke the camel's back and prevent Dubya from having even 40% of the vote. Why? Because it would prove that absolutely nothing he has done has had any effect on terrorism.

    What I'm curious to see is who stands up and claims to be Anonymous when the current administration is out of power. Will the real Anonymous Coward please stand up?
    • it would prove that absolutely nothing he has done has had any effect on terrorism.

      Possibly. But it wouldn't be spun that way, you see. They would say, "you see, despite our best efforts, the War on Terror continues, and you need a strong president to keep fighting it."

      Your conclusion is quite logical of course. If only the American public would listen to reason...

      • One of the best This Modern World [workingforchange.com] comic strips ever. And that's saying a lot.

        Blue Suit: If There's another terror attack before the election, it will mean that the terrorists want George Bush to lose!

        Grey Suit: We'll have to vote Republican -- or else it will be a victory for terror!

        Black Suit: But what if that's what they want? What if they're actually afraid Kerry will win -- and by voting for Bush, we play right into their hands?

        Grey Suit: or -- What if there's not an attack between
        • Nice one!

          Of course, there is a way out of the dilemma, by analyzing which candidate would actually be better for the terrorists' interests (instead of which one they think would be).

          Or you could just be completely random and vote for whoever you think would make a good president.... nah, that's not how we run this country!

    • Personally, I think any terror strike before the election would be the straw that broke the camel's back and prevent Dubya from having even 40% of the vote. Why? Because it would prove that absolutely nothing he has done has had any effect on terrorism.

      Fatally flawed logic there: you're confusing "totally ineffective" with "not totally effective". All a single attack would prove is the latter, which I think anyone sane already knows - it does not prove, or even support, the former. Do you think a single c

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