> every post here that claims it can't do this, or it is just that, and it is all an illusion, is made by people who haven't even actually used it
Or perhaps they are just too prejudiced to see the reality? I'm an experienced embedded developer, currently working for a world class company making both very expensive and special systems (stuff has to be secure and precise) and also consumer level equipment. Vibe coding I am not. It's coding to a detailed spec. These tools allow me to produce significantly higher output at a higher quality level.
Higher quality??? Yes. How??? I'm not forced to make nearly as many design compromises - if I can specify the solution clearly enough, I can have it fairly quickly. This is a game changer, in terms of design agency. It's no longer as much about how difficult the change is, instead it's more of "choose the right design and have a nice day."
That said, these tools also make it trivial to produce volumes of the most vile garbage. So some practice, learning, and discipline is needed.