Fair, I do recall that they did give a bunch of people refunds which prompted them to promise the next one for free. Still, The gamer's bill of rights idea was basically killed dead in the water by stardock because of elemental,

When you say stuff like that and then go onto release a game which was buggy, unplayed with broken mechanics far too early. People are immediately going to call you out on it as PC gamer did

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=20027

introduced by Brad Wardell of Stardock? That certainly went well for them with Elemental : War of Magic, that was completely unplayable on release and basically not complete. It was so bad that they had to give away the expansion, Elemental: Fallen Enchantress for free?

http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/09/03/elemental-launch-was-catastrophic-poor-judgment/
http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/10/26/fallen-enchantress-free-elemental-stardock/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamer's_Bill_of_Rights
http://www.destructoid.com/crashes-and-drama-surround-elemental-s-launch-182350.phtml

A friend once told me that "You have to be in it for yourself.".

If you decided to stay on, would this crucial time stop soon? Or as I suspect, go on forever. This situation actually is so close to what a couple of guys here are going through, I had to ask around if it was one of us who submitted it.

Guess it's time to jump ship.

The captain of that flight Eric Moody is hilarious

followed by the gem

You used to be able to click on a link to anything you had listed in music and be able to see anyone else in your network who had also listed the same band/musican in their profile.

Changing things like "Become a fan" to a "like" is relying on people not noticing and cliking Like because their used to doing that on friend's status updates.

yes, yes and yes.

My current policy is to setup sudo to allow them to use the yum command and that is it. Anything else is asking for trouble. (which is pretty much what the old default in Fedora 12 acheived)

One person I gave the root password and I told him to use yum/the pretty gui to install stuff, 3 days later he had downloaded dozens of random rpms from god knows where. At which point I came along and just typed "yum -y install randomScientificSoftware"

This guy is a pretty high up scientist, so his time isn't cheap and he wasted 3 days on this. He could be doing whatever his specialist field is instead of trying to figure out what is the most difficult way to install software on linux.

If I don't give root passwords, then they'll report to their supervisors saying that the reason they can't do anywork is because I haven't given them a root password.

someone mod this person up now.

I currently have a ticket open requiring the root password because "the user can't do what they want" or something similar. I tried to explain using sudo to them, but this seems beyond them. If i give them the root password it gets written onto a postit note on their monitor.

oh i forgot to add it's available for RHEL/CentOS systems through EPEL
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL

https://fedorahosted.org/func/

I know it's get Fedora in it's name but it's been accepted into as a package into Debian (and thus ubuntu).

It's pretty cool, designed to control alot of systems at once and avoid having to ssh into them all at once, has a build in certification system, a bunch of modules written for it already , usable from the command line so you can easily add it into your scripts and has a python api so if you really wanted some you could throw together some django magic if you wanted a web front end. OpenSymbolic is a webfront end for it already although I haven't checked it out.

Not exactly what you wanted as there's a bunch of work you'd need to do to get it to do the things you want.

both projects feed off each other

everyone will continue to bitch and moan about which one is better

world will keep turning.

you mean spacewalk/satellite http://www.redhat.com/spacewalk/screenshots.html or perhaps func https://fedorahosted.org/func/

yeah but FTA it says

"The intelligence centre will store names, addresses, telephone numbers, seat reservations, travel itineraries and credit card details of travellers. "

which i assume is a tad more than they have already. I like how the government now needs a database for:

my credit cards
dna/other "biometric data"
all the emails I send
all the websites I visit
all the phone calls I make
all the details of my children

obviously you need all of our credit card details to fight terror!