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Comment Re:That's funny (Score 1) 44

While that's the hype, it's not going to be the reality.

Yes, what they are doing has a market.

Yes, it will absolutely allow many of the masses to do what programmers have been able to do for ages. It will change the market, the cheese will move, but it won't destroy the marketplace for programmers.

I think work in graphics design is probably the best parallel. People freaked out in the 1980s when home computers could make banners and flyers. As the software advanced, you got more and more people doing Word Art, and enormous clipart catalogs let office secretaries make good looking office flyers, creative garage sale fliers, church bingo night announcements, and much more. LLMs let people continue to create this type of thing, and print-on-demand services let them send their creations out to make custom stickers and such. But most critically, NONE OF THOSE PEOPLE were hiring graphics designers for those jobs before. It enabled the masses to do some of what graphics designers do, but when it comes to real ad campaigns and professional marketing, companies know investing a few hundred dollars will bring in a few hundred people from the community, investing many thousands or millions are essential for large regional or national campaigns, those jobs continue to get the professionals.

More people making vibe-coded websites that satisfy their specific needs? Great. They weren't hiring a team of programmers for software development before, and they're not hiring a team of programmers after. Executives that claim they'll cut costs by 90% by firing all the professional programmers are in the hype, they either don't understand the work being done or are playing the field. They may do well in their quarterly financial statements, but a couple years down the line the company won't have anything of value remaining. The CEO will be long gone, sold his options, collected his golden parachute, and moved on to the next company to be restructured. Investors will have gutted and sold everything of value from the company by that point as well, they'll take the hype bubble, milk it, then dump what remains in an asset fire sale. The companies that continue making great things and not seeking the bubbles will continue to create good value, leveraging the tools where appropriate but still hiring skilled workers to create products with lasting value.

There will always be changes in who is the winner and who is the winner this quarter. Certainly plenty of profit-seeking investors care only about those quarterly results, not the products and services on offer. There are companies that will grow and companies that will die, nothing new is there. It's good that more people will be able to have more custom program options, just like WordArt and clipart collections allowed people to easily make their own fliers. Those who want a specific vision in marketing can start with "here's my interpretation from an image generator, but I want it done better." Similarly when a small business needs a team of developers to build a program, the customer can also bring in what tried and failed and what they want to see differently, and they come back with a better bid being able to reference what the client generated using AI as a starting reference for building the professionally-built items.

Comment Re: ESP32 (Score 1) 36

Agreed. The ESP32 family of processors are popular for good reason. Some of the chips support RISC-V.

Unfortunately there is far more to the question than the Ask Reddit post contains, cost, processing speed, memory requirements, software needs, and much more. Even so, the ESP32 family and earlier ESP8266 have been popular in IoT devices from smart lightbulbs, watches, cameras, and even light industrial use to Arduino ecosystem and student devices for over a decade now.

Comment Re: All in (Score 5, Interesting) 160

It was the kids getting ready for school in darkness, taking flashlights to the bus stop in the cold, dark winter mornings, along with some high profile deaths of kids in the morning darkness, that got it reversed when the US tried it about about 50 years ago.

People are great at imagining the late summer nights, but quick to forget the darkness of winter.

People are also slow to remember the location matters. East VS west VS center of the time zone matters. Latitude north matters. People on opposite sides of the time zone experience about an hour difference, one may see the sunrise at 8 am, the other side at 7 am. For latitude, southern Florida has about 3 hours of variance across the year, Los Angeles about 4.5 hours, New York City about 6 hours, Maine nearly 8 hours between the summer and winter. Juneau is a 12 hour daylight difference. Both matter tremendously in how someone experiences the daylight differences across the year.

Comment Re:Nevermind... (Score 2) 54

Vast oversimplification for the purpose of your argument. They're not in my house. They're not in the washrooms at work. They are not in a number of other places where people have an expectation of privacy.

You must be one of the rare outliers, so it's surprising you're posting on /.

Does anyone in your house or workplace have a cell phone, tablet, or laptop computer? All have the devices, including cheap feature phones, include cameras and microphones. Microphones can easily be activated, and even old dumb phones could have a cell phone set to a speakerphone with the other side mute or otherwise listening without making sounds. Smart watches typically have at least a microphone. Any of these can be activated without your knowledge. What about tech gadgets like automated vacuums, vehicles that include dash cams and legally required backup cameras, smart TVs, all have them. Wireless earbuds are the norm, as phones don't come with wired ports, so listening devices there. Your video game systems can include them, the older XBox Kinect, or if people have headsets for their games, they've got surveillance in their living room even if they don't have one of the digital assistants like an Amazon Echo. Hell, even your microwave oven probably has a microphone in it that gets used with the popcorn button, it isn't online but with smart appliances these days, who knows what exploits exist.

You say cameras are not in the washrooms, but apart from strictly regimented workplaces like government security clearance required, everybody is going to bring their cell phones with them, and some people will even get out the phones while sitting on the toilet, with 2 cameras facing forward and 3 facing back. Doom scrolling or checking message while sitting on the pot is quite common.

It isn't just security cameras mounted on the wall, or clandestine recording devices. We, the unwashed masses, happily surveil ourselves, we buy our own self-surveillance equipment, and have various recording devices all around our most intimate moments.

Comment So we get to buy the music again? (Score 2) 70

Bought it on vinyl, sometimes more than once. Bought it on cassette. Some I also bought on 8-track. Bought it again on CD. Bought it again in digital formats because it easier than trying to copy it over. There are tracks I've already bought 4 or 5 times.

Then switch to streaming, were we bought it a fraction of a cent at a time, every time, frequently with ads, for just 13/month, 156/year to rent the music.

Now we'll get to buy it again in whatever is next, but this time direct from the artists.

Sucks, but nothing new. Good for the economy, I guess.

Comment LOC written as a performance metric? (Score 5, Insightful) 101

Google is factoring AI use into some software engineer reviews for the first time this year, and Meta's new performance review system will do the same -- it can track how many lines of code an engineer wrote with AI assistance.

Good old "how many lines of code" as a proxy for value.

If that's all they've got to measure success, they're going to be absolutely terrible teams, and quickly terrible code bases.

Negative lines of code are often the best changes.

They get what they measure. Bloated code. Nonsense code. Blocks of code that does processing but adds no value, simply there to inflate the lines of code that came from the AI prompts.

Lines of code are how I get a raise and bons? Let's aim for 10,000 LOC for even the most trivial changes. With some creative prompts we can code up a new minivan before lunchtime.

Comment Re:Flow movie (Score 1) 23

Trademarks, especially those for common words like Flow will typically only be granted for a narrow scope of protection.

Yes, always true.

Trademarks are based on both their distinctiveness and secondary meanings acquired through use. The more generic or descriptive the term the less likely they'll be found to be valid. Words with no prior meaning (Kodak, Xerox, etc) have the strongest protections. Not quite as good but still strong are combinations or allusions to other things (WordPerfect, Netflix, Comic-Con) and they tend to get into nasty legal fights ("Sand Diego Comic-Con" owning "Comic-Con", fighting against "Salt Lake Comic Con" and "Phoenix Comiccon" and assorted other conventions around the globe). In the 1980s and 1990s Microsoft fought repeated lawsuits to try to maintain protections on terms like "Windows" and "Word", including losing several which is why they keep branded materials as "Microsoft Windows" and "Microsoft Word", which must both be present for the brand to be considered legally distinctive enough.

They're also limited by industry they're used in, (e.g. Apple Computer, Apple Music, Apple Bank, Apple Dry Cleaning, Apple Stationary), and by geography where multiple businesses can use the same marks if they're not in overlapping geographic regions. All remain perfectly valid trademarks.

Visa continues to fight in courts around the world, as trademarks generally don't allow companies to remove words from the dictionary for their traditional names, although some large companies try very hard to seize the words out of common use.

Naming a product "Flow" is incredibly stupid from a legal perspective. These are creative industries with many talented, creative workers. Probably ANYBODY in the product teams could have come up with more distinctive, creative names. A simple brainstorming meeting could have probably come up with 20 other great product names that would have made for strong trademarks.

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