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Comment Re:Retaliatory measures based on no evidence. (Score 1) 821

Would read again.

I'd highly recommend you do that, to make sure you understand how wrong it is. One nice thing about the slashdot comment system is comments are permanent, so that comment will forever be as wrong as it was when its owner first hit "submit". In fact, that comment could have hardly been a less accurate description of socialism had that been its authors aim.

Comment Re:Retaliatory measures based on no evidence. (Score 1) 821

Socialism or communism inevitable evolves to an authoritarian regime.

Really? You must be looking at pretty long time scales, then. The Nordic states have been the best examples of Socialism anywhere and have not approached anything resembling authoritative regimes. They are over 50 years in to Socialism at this point, and they would likely be pretty surprised to learn that they either have or are about to undergo that transformation.

Comment Re:Retaliatory measures based on no evidence. (Score 2, Insightful) 821

Socialism (defined as no private ownership of 'means of production')

Thank you for clarifying where your mistake was. Socialism does not require there be no private ownership of means of production. Socialism does not seek to make everything state owned, rather it seeks to ensure that opportunity for the individual is not hampered by their inability to obtain capital. In fact the most significant European examples of socialism are also countries with significant privately-owned industries - think of Volvo and Saab from Sweden, Nokia from Finland, the list goes on. The government never controlled those companies.

Communism, on the other hand, does seek to take control of the means of production. The two are not interchangeable.

at a national level requires a command economy

That statement only makes sense given your false statement about socialism that you made earlier. A command economy is absolutely not required for socialism.

No price signals, no profit motive

Again, look at the products of actual socialist countries and you will see how wrong you are with that statement.

Command economies all have excessive concentration of power. It is just a fact.

While the states that called themselves "communists" ended up that way, it is not the result of Communism itself. Rather it is because in a large state, you will almost without fail end up with someone rising up in the power vacuum created by the pursuit of Communism who will attempt to concentrate power. At that point the "communist" state collapses into Fascism, only without the name. This is no different from the fate that the US would face under many of the "libertarian" dream states that have been sold to us on TV and youtube in recent years.

Comment Re:Retaliatory measures based on no evidence. (Score 4, Insightful) 821

The key flaw to socialism is: Excessive concentration of power.

BZZT! Sorry, wrong answer. You meant to say Fascism, not socialism. Fascism is the excessive concentration of power. In terms of power concentration socialism is closer to anarchy than it is to fascism. Crony capitalism (which is a better description of the American political system) is much closer to fascism in terms of concentration of power than is socialism.

While socialism is not perfect, it is most definitely not intent on concentration of power.

Comment Re:Fascism Can't Last Forever, Baby (Score 1) 332

No, fascism is the integration of economic (corporate) and government power.

Which is exactly what happens in the libertarian dream state. What happens when education, infrastructure development and upkeep, all phases of law and order (everything from citations to trials to executions), lawmaking, and even war are all functions of corporations? You end up stuck with extreme power concentration, held by people who can never be removed from power - which is of course fascism.

Keep these separate, as is probably Point #1 of Libertarians, and you don't have a problem.

Maybe in some other country the libertarians want to keep the powers of corporations and governments separate. Here they want them together more than anything.

Comment Re:Fascism Can't Last Forever, Baby (Score 1) 332

Fascism is simply the extreme concentration of power. There hasn't been a candidate so openly campaigning for that as Ron Paul in a very, very long time. He has openly campaigned for principles that are well beyond the balances established by the constitution, in the interest of concentrating insane amounts of power in the hands of very few. He just puts a veneer of "freedom" on it to give it a happy face while oppressing far more people than he is "liberating". If the policies he has worked so hard to push ever came to fruition, more people would suddenly find themselves far less free and far less mobile than ever before.

Comment Fascism Can't Last Forever, Baby (Score 1, Troll) 332

Thankfully, that is. A lot of people - particular those who seem to think that a certain candidate in this race is some sort of anarchist alternative - don't realize how close we are to electing a fascist leader (or how much they might be helping that person to be elected). We have seen fascism get a lot of positive free press here on slashdot before when being paraded about as something other than what it really is. Thankfully fascist regimes always get toppled in the end, there just is no guarantee who will be around long enough to see that end.

Comment Re:Yes you are (Score 1) 1092

Indeed roman's fascism would embrace killing or enslaving a large portion of the population. He is tragically too shortsighted though to realize that in so doing he will dramatically reduce demand for his own work, and end up begging for scraps as well. His religion has told him that, beyond all reason and logic, he will some how be able to avoid this fate simply by virtue of his faith.
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Journal Journal: ISIS opens the door to fascism (come get some!)

Some people have been placing bets for which republican candidate will gain the most from the ISIS attacks in Paris. They're (almost) all wrong, however. The candidate who will gain the most from this is the one who will most blatantly exploit it for personal gain. The candidate who will gain the most from this is the one who will most enthusiastically rally the troops for his personal cause as being connected to what happened. The candidate who will gain the most from this is the one who fi

Comment Just Another Republican (Score 1) 438

While Rand Paul is proud to inherit the cult so lovingly built by his father, he doesn't seem to feel entirely obligated to actually stray far from the party message. Rand Paul is well aware of who butters his bread, and takes actions to make sure they are taken care of. In other words, he is making the choices he needs to make to see that his policies bring more power for the powerful, and facsism for the people.
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Journal Journal: More Fuel for the Cult

Likely the most dangerous cult in the US today is the cult of Ron Paul (which of course is much enamored with his dear son Rand). The cult of Ron Paul quotes mostly only two authors; their cult leader himself (often in youtube format) and his idol Ayn Rand. Now their second-favorite messiah has new scripture coming out. Well, actually it is old scripture - written in 1934 to be prec

Comment Your script is out of whack (Score 1) 619

Let me apply some facts to your bit so what you spewed out reflects reality instead of religious fantasy:

it is the correct variable, what do you think the policies of the church of ron paul lead to? Massive poverty, lack of equality under the law, loss of all opportunities to get out of poverty.

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Sure, you can say that the problem is poverty, but poverty in unregulated free market countries came from unregulated free markets - lack of private ownership and operation of property due to hyperconcentration of wealth, lack of individual freedoms.

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If the law is applied differently to some people even in such concepts as different tax brackets and different tax breaks you will have less economic freedom, less initiative, fewer opportunities, fewer people trying to get ahead

Amazingly that statement needs no adjustments. You just described the ambitions of your fascist cult for us in great clarity.

Of-course there are very few moral people in an immoral system.

Precisely. I could hardly image a less moral system than the one you have been advocating endlessly here. Being as you are one of the system's top cheerleaders I don't see how you could possibly be able to help bring about the rise of any moral people, though.

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