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Comment "interpretation" at what level? (Score 4, Interesting) 244

"aiming to produce a machine that can see and interpret as well as a human."

First I want to say that this whole level of brain modeling is really cool. However, there are, of course, different levels of "interpretation" I don't think that this computer will be able to achieve a human level of interpretation simply by modeling the visual cortex.

  1. perception: at one level you could argue (not very effectively) that interpretation just means perception... that's an eyeball/optic nerve visual cortex thing. e.g. You can perceive a face.
  2. recognition/categorization: of visual forms involves the visual cortex/occipital lobe. e.g. you can recognize if that face is familiar
  3. interpretation: involves assigning meaning to a stimulus and this involves many more parts of the brain than the visual cortex. It's obviously tied to memory which is closely tied, physiologically, to emotion. It also involves higher order thinking since, when most humans interpret a real world stimulus, there are multiple overlapping and networked associations that must be processed into a meaningful whole. e.g. you can recognize how threatening that face is, why it is threatening or not (and in what substantive domains it is or is not threatening), and even what you should do about it.

Even "interpretation" at the second level above (which it seems the "roadrunner" might be able to model) require a lot more, for humans, than just the visual cortex.

In other words if we were to call into existence a floating occipital lobe connected to a couple of eyes that had never been attached to the rest of a brain we would never be able to achieve recognition/categorization let alone interpretation. If I'm wrong maybe some of you hardcore neuroscience type can help me out?

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Telcos' resistance to municipal WiFi broadband projects is pretty well documented, but it's been interesting to see how their position changes once they realize they can make some money from running the muni networks. Over in France, the country's incumbent operator, France Telecom, has filed a legal challenge to Paris' plan to roll out free hotspots (via MuniWireless), saying they will illegally compete with its network of 2,250 paid hotspots in the city. This argument has been made before in Europe, like in Barcelona, where the city was forced to shut down its hotspots after a similar complaint -- even though they blocked access to everything except 60 sites with city information and services. What makes France Telecom's suit even more ridiculous is that its mobile phone unit, Orange, bid on the tender to provide the service for the city. Now, after it's lost out, the company cries foul.

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