Re:Incredible read.. (Score 3, Interesting)

I'd like to thank Håkon Wium Lie, the responses were a good read and one of the few I've read all the way through. I've been working with CSS for a while and have one main question for every other web programmer out there. When are we going to stop being limited by IE? When I design a webpage I make sure that it functions properly in Opera and FireFox. Then I open up IE, shut my eyes, and run screaming from the room(usually right into the closed door.) Simple effects and a basic CSS driven menu system leave IE page renders in ruins. I then have to spend more timing trying to get it to work in IE then I spent writing the entire page.(I guess if I was paid hourly this wouldn't be such a big problem.) What I would really like to see is a stand against MS:IE until they get their act together. Every single web programmer that reads this should stop supporting IE. Will that happen: probably not. But you could do one thing that might help the cause; add a script that ID's IE and then tell the user that they are missing out on functionallity because they are using a faulty/old web browser. You can then supply the user with a link to Opera, Firefox or Safari. From what I have seen, IE 7 is supposed to have better support for CSS but that does nothing for someone that is using anything older then XP. Since MS, in its unending desire to part us from our money, decided that they aren't going to allow anyone, that isn't using Win XP, to use the latest version of IE. If we can take advantage of this lack of support we may be able to get a much larger migration away from IE.