Most people have 401k. Most 401k have stock investments. Most Americans are shareholders.

I think that's how they become mainstream. By keeping the Windows users in their comfort zone, which means seeing the occasional BSOD.

Welcome to the future

Just roll over and die

Sure. But the same happens here. And it doesn't mean you can't find useful information or help.

If agree. I find people there generally helpful.

To be clear, I'm merely asking here: what would have been the right play. Just stay out of all of this?

Fair enough. When Iraq and Iran where going at it (in the 80s), the US supported Iraq and Saddam against Khomeini. Was that the wrong move? And then Saddam turned out to be evil. What's one to do?

The US has the strongest free speech law among most countries. It used to be a progressive (left) value.

Saddam was butcheting his own citizens before the US involvment. Assad was butchering his own citizens before the US (non-)involvment. Ghaddafi was butchering his own citizens before the US (and EU) involvment. Etc. I don't have strong feelings either way, but letting dictators slaughtering their own in silence is not satisfactory.

You're in massive denial if you think "westerners" have a monopoly on violence. You might want to read some history, and say how the Comanche and Apache repeatedly slaughtered each other before Europeans got involved. Violence is in our animal side, and only a racist and an ignorant would say a certain group of people has a monopoly on it.

I've been very happy with my Garmin(s)

rofl

say Ghostery + uBlock Origin

What led them astray, all of them? why would you not be led astray?