Re:Root problem: China's ownership claims over Tib (Score 0)

This is so not the root problem. You are killing your own straw man here. It is intellectually insulting to suggest that's how we Chinese think. And it's blatantly bashing to claim that our race "is obsessed in rule over neighboring countries". Have you seen us claiming Russia and many other European countries as part of China? They were under the rule of Yuan Dynasty too. Have you seen us claiming Republic of Mongolia as part of China? It was separated from China only decades ago. Have you seen us claiming South Asian countries as part of China? There were many Chinese princesses marrying their kings. If it is up to me, there is really no need to bother bringing up history here. The reality has always been: Whoever has the upper-hand at the right time in history, gets the land and rules the people on the land. This could be through military means, or diplomatic maneuver, many ways but not whining with lies. The current U.S. map has been built this way, so as the current European map, why Chinese map has to be defined otherwise? But the fact that every single nation on earth formally recognizes Chinese sovereignty over Tibet - this has always been the case, even long before 1951, is not enough for people like you. You have to go around telling lies about history, such as "China invaded Tibet in the 1950s. Tibet was an independent country then". So it's people like you who bring up horrendously distorted version of history. You should thank those Chinese who took time to correct your illusion. Do yourself a favor, study from the history, not media. Find some maps, old and new, published by all countries, see for yourself the clearly marked boundary of China including Tibet. And good luck arguing with historians that Yuan and Qing were not China, starting from Marco Polo ï¼1254-1324). And as another reader pointed out, how convenient for you to skip Ming Dynasty? I would add, how convenient for you to jump from Qing to Mao's era. Seriously, how do you learn your history? There were so many lies in your post, not to mention serious exaggerations. It's people like you who cause the problem. Stop! Just stop spreading this mis-information! And that Grace Wang. Who are you to call her a true patriot when over a billion of Chinese disagree? You obviously hate China. And you get to decide who is true patriotic to China? What a joke! And please don't waste everybody's time by citing the findings of the self-proclaimed "International Commission of Jurists" which is essentially a non-government human rights organization representing the political agenda of the Tibet lobby. Their legal assertions hold little weight among the world's experts in international law. China's sovereignty of Tibet is indisputable. Indeed, Tibetans have always required Chinese passports to enter the U.S. - always, both before and since 1951. Here is a quote from Wikipedia: "Not a single sovereign state, including India, has extended recognition to the Tibetan Government-in-exile in the more than two decades of its existence. This lack of legal recognition of independence has forced even some strong supporters of the refugees to admit that "even today international legal experts sympathetic to the Dalai Lama's cause find it difficult to argue that Tibet ever technically established its independence of the Chinese Empire, imperial, or republican." It's getting late. Pardon me for being lazy by citing from others. Also, I know I've become angry as I wrote this, but my anger is only to those who spread lies knowingly. Let me post a documentary made by Monarex here for those who want to find out truth before forming opinions. "Tibet, the truth (A political history). http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xsoc4-QnplY