Comment Re:The true believer (Score 0, Flamebait) 1328
I would disagree with many people. Religion and science should have things to say to each other. If you have science unrestrained by religion, you have the ability of science to go unrestrained into immoral acts. The scientists of Nazi Germany were unrestrained by religion and did unspeakable atrocities. Religion unrestrained and controlling science gave us periods of time where to speak scientific truth would earn you torture and prison. Neither should control the other, but I do believe the two should strongly influence each other.
I know that atheists will come and try to claim they are moral and don't require religious influence, but I respectfully disagree. I am not saying you have no morals if you are an atheist. But if you are an atheist and have morals, you have been influenced by religion. You can deny it, but I would be willing to bet any language and concepts you use to describe your morals have been developed and established using concepts and language made by a religion. Additionally, there is nothing inherently moral about atheism as people familiar with Pol Pot and Stalin will easily tell you. While there have been religious offenders that have done unspeakable things, I see no movement shaping the morality of our culture without religious influence behind it, and cultures die without morals (at least shared ones).
Religions at their core gave us their vision of how society should be. I'm not sure it would be to our benefit to cast that off, and societies that have done that have not been the better for it.
I know that atheists will come and try to claim they are moral and don't require religious influence, but I respectfully disagree. I am not saying you have no morals if you are an atheist. But if you are an atheist and have morals, you have been influenced by religion. You can deny it, but I would be willing to bet any language and concepts you use to describe your morals have been developed and established using concepts and language made by a religion. Additionally, there is nothing inherently moral about atheism as people familiar with Pol Pot and Stalin will easily tell you. While there have been religious offenders that have done unspeakable things, I see no movement shaping the morality of our culture without religious influence behind it, and cultures die without morals (at least shared ones).
Religions at their core gave us their vision of how society should be. I'm not sure it would be to our benefit to cast that off, and societies that have done that have not been the better for it.
