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Comment Re:Those are separate things (Score 1) 262

> Yes, they did. But the people of the West Bank and the people of Gaza are not Hamas or Fatah. Those are political factions within them.
Gazans and West Bank palestinians don't hate each other.

Those are not the people Israel declared war on either. It explicitly attacks the Hamas. These people are the victims. At this point I don't think Israel should bare much blame. This is Hamas's fault. They can save every single civilian by just taking them into the tunnels under Gaza. They don't want that. They want them to die.

People keep amplifying the victimization of casualties here and ignoring the fact that Israel literally has no choice.

The Hamas has explicitly stated its goal is the destruction of Israel. It has proven it will use any ceasefire to get more arms and kill more. It keeps kidnapped civilians (children as young as 3!). Israel doesn't have a choice but to attack. It then forces civilians into its path.

> > My point is, Israel wouldn't be in the Westbank if not for the Hamas.
>
> Huh? Israel is in the West Bank because of Jordan (and the fact that they consider it their land)
Maybe you meant Gaza?

Nope. I meant Hamas. The Oslo accord started a process of leaving the west bank and Gaza. It was working rather well until the Hamas started blowing up busses in the middle of Tel Aviv killing MANY civilians in pretty horrific suicide bombings. Netanyahu used these to amplify anti-Palestinian sentiment triggering the assassination of Rabin and his rise to power. It also gave him "legitimacy" to stop the Oslo accord from moving forward.

Had it not been for the Hamas it is very likely that the Oslo accord would have progressed and we would have a Palestinian state by now in both Gaza and the West bank.

> > If the Hamas is destroyed after this action Israel would need the Palestinians from the Westbank to take over.
>
> Palestinians in teh West Bank take over Gaza? That's a bit of a trick since people aren't allowed to make that commute... if they're Palestinian, of course.

That isn't true. There's a border pass and people with permits can make that commute. People from Gaza used to go into Israel all the time for work, medical treatments and more. In fact, before October 17th Israel was slowly relaxing restrictions and approximately 17,000 Gaza residence were in Israel. Some just snuck out and Israel turned a blind eye to encourage economic prosperity in Gaza which they incorrectly assumed would tame the Hamas.

The Palestinian authority used to control Gaza before the Hamas took over so this has some historic roots. Arafat had it as his base.

> Settlers dressed up as IDF personnel and driving Palestinians off land and building outposts, while the IDF sits idly by.

Yep. That's criminal and should be documented. People go to jail for that nonsense especially now. The other day there was a terrible incident in the west bank where Palestinians were attacked by rogue soldiers. This made the Israeli press and people are furious at them.

I get the rage the soldiers are feeling (that was the intention of the October attacks). But they should go to jail for a long time.

Furthermore, the mindshare in Israeli society has really soured against settlers. I'm not sure if it will remain as negative but it seems that Israelis are tired of their nonsense. There are also many Israeli driven organizations that work against them and against the West bank occupation e.g.

https://www.btselem.org/

https://www.ahimlaneshek.org/

Many of the documented accounts for these crimes are from these organizations.

The word atrocities carries a higher bar for me personally. The two little girls stuck in a closet hiding under the body of their mother while their little 3 year old brother was kidnapped to Gaza. The block of charred remains which is a father holding his son while both were burned alive in their home.

Most of these people were good people. A family who organized an annual kite flying event next to the fence so Gazan and Israeli kids can fly kites together and see the other side in a different light. All slaughtered with their children. An 80 year old man who would drive Gazan cancer patients to treatments in Israeli hospitals is now held in Gaza for 3+ weeks... This is just a tip of the 1,300 murdered and 240 kidnapped.

I have a lot of empathy for the pain of the Palestinian people. But there's a ridiculous difference in scale and malicious intention.

Comment Re:Those are separate things (Score 1) 262

Well, the Hamas slaughtered a lot Fatah members as it took over Gaza. They really hate each other.

My point is, Israel wouldn't be in the Westbank if not for the Hamas. If the Hamas is destroyed after this action Israel would need the Palestinians from the Westbank to take over.

> Atrocities

That's a pretty hard word... There's one case in recent years where I would apply it, the burning of the Palestinian family. The guy who did that is in jail and is a terrorist, Israeli law does apply when it matters. The inverse of the Hamas should also apply, they burned multiple families alive. Kidnapped, mutilated and much more.

Comment Those are separate things (Score 1) 262

Westbank is a very different territory. If we would have the discussion I would be with you with the pitchfork against Israel and the settlements. In fact, most Israelis would. It's a terrible situation and a lot of it is due to Benjamin Netanyahu and his poison.

However, we did have the Oslo accord which was supposed to give both to the Palestinian authority. The people who stopped that at the Hamas who started blowing up busses, coffee shops etc. That also gave rise to Netanyahu who effectively killed off the Oslo accord.

The Hamas has consistently stopped any progress towards peace or normality for the Palestinians and Israelis. Against the wishes of the vast majorities on both sides. They don't want a compromise, they will accept nothing less than the entire state as it says in their charter. They are unabashed about their Jihadi intentions.

Only if they are completely destroyed will there be a chance for a Palestinian state. If the Israeli government was smart it would have announced that it would re-ignite Oslo on the eve of the Hamas defeat. Unfortunately, Netanyahu is still the PM despite the many calls demanding his resignation. I'm hopeful that he will be ousted ASAP and that a new leader would have the fore-site to do something like this.

Comment They knew what Israel would do and welcomed it... (Score 1) 262

The goal was to display Israel as committing war crimes. That is what they're trying to show, it's irrelevant if Israel is actually doing that (see the Hospital bombing lie). This is indeed resulting in a lot of antisemitic action worldwide and a few idiot Jews who mistakenly support them out of misguided association with the PLO/Westbank.

Ultimately, they hope it will cause a dissolution of the peace with Egypt and Jordan and bring about an all out war against Israel.

They are Jihadis. For them the death of their own civilians is a guaranteed path to heaven. They are doing them a "favor" by sending them directly to heaven as shahids. They didn't count on the USA putting battleships and signaling so deeply. Egypt and Jordan won't risk their relationships with the USA for the "crazy people".

Comment Re: Israel's far right government (Score 1) 262

They didn't plan the ousting but Netnyahu leapt on the opportunity and said so in 2019. He assumed that this would put the end to the potential of a Palestinian state by fragmenting the people and removing their legitimacy. He's an idiot who also said to Congress that US troops will make a far better middle east when they take over Iraq. He's a moron who sounds really smart on camera...

Comment Not accurate. Hamas did that not PLO (Score 1) 262

The original Oslo accord was about strengthening the PLO to drown out the Hamas. Then the Hamas started blowing up busses and establishments in Tel Aviv... Netanyahu used that to essentially leap into power through rhetoric against Oslo. He then in a roundabout way supported the Hamas and used them to block Oslo and the potential of a Palestinian state.

For most Israelis this narrative is a bit too complex and at the time they accepted the silly narrative that the PLO allowed the Hamas to operate.

Comment Re:Really tells you a lot about some people (Score 1) 340

More than 20% of the citizens of Israel are Palestinians/Arabs. They have members of parliament and were in the previous administration. They have a supreme court justice and some of the more marginal groups serve in the army.

Yes. Israel has a horrible track record with the occupied territories. I'm 100% with you on that and 100% for a palestinian state.

The biggest blocker for that is the Hamas who stopped the Oslo accord with repeated bombings and effectively held back the palestinian state because they don't want that. They want a holy war. They want death on all sides. They are a cancer on the palestinan people.

The PLO also made murderous attacks. But it came back from that. It recognized that Israel had the right to exist and that opened the road to negotiations. The Hamas doesn't care about its people. In fact, many of the victims in this recent attack were arabs and beduine people!

Comment Re:after the last 20 years of endless wars ... (Score 1) 340

Zero. Israel doesn't imprison kids. Even a 14 year old who literally stabbed a person was released after no jailtime because she was underage.

Do children get caught in crossfire. Yes. That's terrible. The Hamas hides its missiles behind schools because it's a terrorist organization that sabotaged multiple peace processes in the past. Its goal is a holy war. No less.

I'm 100% for a palestenian state. My heart goes out to the innocent civilians in Gaza. They will undoubtedly blame Israel but the fault in this case is 100% with the Hamas. Westerners who support it are simply misguided and ignorant about the organization. It has one purpose and that's a war to the death. No compromise or discussion is possible. They don't believe there's such a thing as an "innocent civilian" in either side. They believe that when their children die they are "rewarded". Unfortunately, people like that can't be reasoned with.

Comment A lot of the recent victims were not Jews (Score 1) 340

In their attacks, the Hamas terrorists killed many bedouins, palatinates and foreign nationals indiscriminately at close range. They are a murder suicide cult whose main victims are the palestinian people. This boggles the mind when I read foreign support for them. They are terrible towards their own people.

These people stopped previous attempts at peace that would have been successful.

Comment Re:They are helping terrorists (Score 1) 340

This is missing some context. Palestinians are not a singular people. They have many factions. Some wanted the deal some will take no deal.

Rabin specifically made a deal only with the PLO and blocked out Hamas. This approach triggered suicide bombings from the Hamas with the goal of stopping the deal. Bibi then pounced on the option claiming he can offer "safe piece" which essentially meant stopping everything and doing nothing. He essentially used the Hamas as a rallying cry claiming that the "left" would create the country of "Hamastan". His policies led to the Hamas strengthening and taking over the Gaza strip.

He tried to negotiate with them and failed because it's the Hamas. It's a jihadi group. But he gave them legitimacy and became complacent about them.

Comment Actual comparison and options (Score 5, Interesting) 130

Based on this: https://tonisagrista.com/blog/2023/jpegxl-vs-avif/
It seems that JPEG-XL is usually superior to AVIF mostly for lossless compression. Having it as an option, especially without the patents, would be a big boon.

The claim about ecosystem is a red herring. With CDNs you only need two pieces to get widespread use: CDN support and browser support. If Chrome and FF don't support it then a CDN won't pick it up. A CDN has the luxury of picking up the right format for every image to reduce bandwidth costs. Giving them another option is a win for everyone. I don't see any reason for dropping JPEG-XL other than getting Google owned properties deeper in.

Comment Re:China got more elecric cars than everyone combi (Score 2) 102

That's a fair assessment. Still there's a huge amount of investment in green energy within China. It's crucial for their energy independence and they understand that. The idea that they aren't moving in that direction is detached from objective reality and is a talking point of the oil and gas lobby.

Comment Re:China got more elecric cars than everyone combi (Score 3, Insightful) 102

So we shouldn't vote either? Millions vote so what would my single ballot do?

They dig coal because it's economical. Once it stops being economical they will stop.
We already see farmers in backward countries setting up solar panels and windmills. The economies are better than relying on the grid even now. Continued improvement and better manufacturing would strengthen that advantage and reduce the number of payback years (initial investment) required for this to be profitable. Better/cheaper storage solutions will make this a more robust option for everyone.

How do we get there?

Rich western countries need to invest and adopt early. This will help move the technology forward for everyone and further boost the scale economies for China too.

The payback for the west is huge. As early technology adopters we'll have better infrastructure and a leg up on the newer technology/infrastructure. Not to mention cleaner air, energy independence and better quality of life. The idea that we shouldn't invest because "China" is a talking point from the oil and gas industry. It doesn't make sense.

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