What do people see as "creative thinking"? (Score 1)

Honestly, creativity is overrated in our age because with scientific research over the last century a lot of good ideas have been already been flushed out. They simply are not practiced. The problem is not that people avoid creativity, it's they want their own creativity to manifest, not yours. This is true even in the face of peer reviewed, expertly written material.

Geniuses do not create new things, they copy things that already exist (I got this from Edward Tufte). Basically, they observe and then they apply intelligent design to what already exists to improve the status quo, in a way then does not rock the boat, but improves things gradually. Gradual improvement is all we are really capable of anyways, because you cannot observe and improve things without seeing the problems first.

However, this is what is seen as "creativity" by those who do not understand it, because understanding usually requires in depth abstract thought and an extremely good memory to put together the pieces of the puzzle together.

What is really easy is these people who are trying to be "creative" in their own right and ignoring the status quo making things horrible for those around them and creating very detrimental products of their creativity.

i.e. "Let's take advantage of people's superstitious nature." (forced spread and manipulation of religion, just glance at the inquisition...), "Let's issue to much currency and not protect the people, we'll make a huge profit in the end either way." (Several banks throughout history, perhaps bit coin will be the same, we'll see.), "Let's guess how much we are going to make based on business plans that have not come to fruition, and budget that way." (Enron) "Let's time our employees and pay them less, so they need more government assistance and assistance from family members. It's the job that is worthwhile to them." (Good Will) "Let's pay our employees so little and squeeze as much money out of them as possible instead of paying them what we can afford and investing into their futures. This way they go on welfare." (Walmart) "Let's do massive scale Agriculture" (Humanity)

I suppose I could throw in experts being told what to do by their bosses despite plenty of push back. If you have not experienced this, you should try getting a degree or specializing in something. Everyone is an expert except the practitioner and student of their discipline.

As far as I know, ALL of these things go against conventional wisdom, or did at some point in time. These things were never observed to be good, they were just done, they were created by creative people. Created against the tried and true wisdom established before hand.

• -Religion as a Form of Control (who needs real leadership and organic social structure, we have no control then.)
• -Banks (Specie Circular crisis)
• -Speculative Budgeting (Enron did this, and I remember in the documentary, they even coined a term for it, maybe I even got it right. Bull markets come to mind too, i.e. Taking out loans for investing, because how can you lose, right?)
• -Not Investing into People (If you have not watched the Good Will clip that demonstrates this, you should. However, this is how employers are treating people across the board in my experience so far. Walmart is another "great" company.)
• -Mass Scale Agriculture is possibly the most waste producing thing we have ever done. Population is excessive, and we must produce even more crops to make sure we do not starve, leading to a negative feedback cycle of population growth due to even more food. With so many people, nature can not even stand up against us, and we've destroyed much of what nature provided to us previously, in a much more reliable way. Of course, we live a bit longer, but the quality of that life as a whole is debatable. Recent research is showing that tribal people actually live quite long and healthy lives. I am not against technological advancement, but I think it could have been had, at perhaps a slower pace, with less people and waste. Some people, also, hypothesize that agriculture came about as a show of power Honestly, I believe it resulted in real power.

I did find random pages for much of my references, but you could just read Guns, Germs, and Steel.

Of course, I am going to be considered "creative" if I propose we switch back to what we know works or at least stop going in the direction we are headed.

I can here it now "Darn over analyzers! " ;)