Hope Devuan Chimaera based on Debian Bullseye will release soon. Devuan Beowulf I'm currently using is fast and stable, uses runit init. I have Gnome-3.30 as the DE. Most convenient thing is, no systemd knowledge needed, the old service command will do. Only gripe is, as a desktop user I'm not getting the latest Gnome-3.x/4 DE available unlike Ubuntu. Yes, Devuan is just fine for average desktop Linux users as well. Hopes Debian will continue supporting alternate init options which makes it possible for Devuan and MX/antix Linux to use runit, openRC and other init systems which are simpler and straightforward.

Debian has concluded that they are going the single init way - systemd way! :( No mercy to Devuan or antiX and such efforts to ensure init freedom. OpenRC+runit should've been elected as the default root instead of RedHat invention sponsored by agencies.

Ubuntu, Debian without systemd possibly with OpenRC or SysV init as option. No? Angry with us infidels who hate your systemd and RH?

HP also has Insyde BIOS in their laptops and newer laptops usually works perfectly with Linux. Is there any reports of problems with HP?

There are a large number of middle budget laptops from HP and Dell that comes with rebranded AMD SI and CIK cards which have only GCN 1.0 or 1.1 supported. I have a HP 15-BS576TX which is a June 2017 launch which has AMD 520 discrete card. So, does many models with AMD 520/530 cards which are recognized in amdgpu as HD8xxx cards. The driver performance is most of the times laggard compared to radeon driver. I hope the developers kindly give some attention to this also. The only hope is amdgpu project with these cards. I have pkppa (Padoka stable) repo enabled in my Ubuntu 17.10 system. https://www.phoronix.com/forum...

What is this man plotting? Is he working for NSA? By committing a genuine code, they can have different plans. We need that old system. Eudev,uselessd - what happened to those projects?

when slackware founder ditched Gnome for Kde, many Gnome and non-Kde users suffered. now, it is like all Kde distros are failing ?

when volkerding ditched Gnome out of slackware, where were the kde sympathizers? I know, windows ui similarity is a reason kde is loved(yet the kde fanatics still deny this!) imo, Ubuntu must be consistent with Gnome version. unity seems to me, much worse than default Gnome. look at what Gnome3 did to Gnome DE development! 3 forks as of now iirc - unity,cinnamon,mate bleah!

Gnome developers! stop using mac os now!!! we've had enough. every fcuking turd knows that Linux Gui or Desktop Environments are blatant copies of Windows or Mac! KDE = way too much windows! ya fans will definitely denyy Gnome = mac os x el copy... When WIll Linux Get a Real Desktop Environment? GNOME 2 was the closest thing. People are really settled with it. Now, they want to show us a tablet/mobile UI called Gnome3! Why? Gnome3 has problems with window manager mutter and clutter(libs). Many applications render like sh1t especially firefox,eye of gnome etc when pages gets garbled,stuck. this is in addition to the frustration of not having Gnome2.. tbh

my toilet is directly controlled by windows 7. it can automagically flush everytime..you know. I am using it as a toilet cleaner. :P

solution is to use latest firefox 3.6.4;explained heayah: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=53036

well said!