Well then, I guess I'm just not an engineer. Not by your definition, anyway. Never mind that I hold an engineering degree. Nor that I graduated top of the class at a prestigious university. Nor that if you have a PC, firmware that I designed and wrote is probably running on it. No, you've defined what an engineer is. I guess I'll have to accept it.

correction on my earlier post, your link was to the definition of apropos. I used the same site to look up irony

From your link to the definition of irony:

"5. an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected. "

I think this is the definition of irony that people actually use correctly quite often, and applies in this case of a man buying what he thought was a great product, and then driving it off a cliff.

Still sad, however. From the little bit that I read online, he seemed like a nice, charitable individual.

Seriously. This guy must be new here.

I tried that and it didn't work so I just left the kitten in a snow drift.

with today's hdd capacities, overwriting a drive 10+ times will take weeks, if not months. Smashing is one answer. Full disk encryption with disposable keys is another.

I'm actually more likely to touch it when I swill.