CmdrTaco served proudly and valiantly for 14 years, and never even made it to Cptn

Clueless users will get hit by crap all the time regardless of the platform. Clued users will not, again regardless of the platform.

Only a Sith speaks in absolutes. A cluesless user on a Mac goes to hackmycomputer.com and downloads the virus/malware/spyware of the day. It downloads to his desktop, and he double clicks on it. Guess what happens? Not a darn thing - becuase the file he downloaded was an EXE something that WON'T RUN ON A MAC. Viruses, Spyware, Adware, Trojans, Worms, Malware, etc., etc., etc. won't work on a Mac, regardless of the clued state of the user, because THEY AREN'T MAC PROGRAMS. The switch to the Intel chip set actually makes the Mac *MORE* secure, because of those 40 viruses for Mac OS 9 can't touch these machines, since Classic won't work on the new MacTels. Mac users are smug when it comes to security because they have, excuse me, *we* have every right to be. You can say "One day you'll be wrong" until you're blue in the face, but until we actually are PROVEN wrong - it's all just a bunch of hot air. I personally use Macs at work and on my desktop, and at home I use Linux and Windows. I've seen the security difference first hand. Windows, even with Antivirus, firewalls, and spyware blockers, I still have to remove bad stuff - Mac has never given me any kind of problems like that. Linux either. Mac is just prettier, has better 3rd party support, and works out of the box better than Linux. Mac OS X is the best OS ever writen (so far).