Hold out for the Rio Karma / Pearl (Score 5, Informative)

20 and 40 gig versions, supports Ogg Vorbis and shipping in October (allegedly)

Details:
http://www.gizmodo.com/archives/007993 .php

http://gear.ign.com/articles/382/382161p1.html?f ro mint=1&submit.x=39&submit.y=24

http://msg.mp3.com/hardware/liststory/?position= 10 &month=200301&topic_id=8707

http://www.gizmodo.com/archives/008007.php

http://empeg.comms.net/files/133662-ipodcompare. jp g