Re:that's not the point (Score 1)

Oh, for the love of...

BadBoysDriveAudi: In my line of work, I have scheduling conflicts all the time for meetings or training sessions while trying to continue to actually produce a product/service.

OohShiny: What gets you fired is choosing not to attend meetings because you don't like the instructor or having a second job interfere with your duties on the first. You don't have that freedom in the real world, and there is no reason you should have that freedom at university.

By trying to argue too much, you're committing all sorts of fallacies. How is a meeting scheduling conflict going to get me fired? As I see it, there are multiple people demanding my time, and I have to make a choice as to which meeting I attend. The other one is attended by someone in my stead, who takes the minutes so that I may review at a later time. In the other scenario, I sit on the phone with a headpiece, or I video conference while working on my laptop. Either way, I continue to get things done, and in such a way that people continue to request my time because they like the quality of my product/service.

In your previous post, you stated that I should get real because you can't or shouldn't pull off both things at once, i.e., do one thing and then watch a lecture at a later time. This was because, as you say, "it doesn't happen in the real world" [paraphrased]. I think I've given you a valid example that it DOES happen in the real world.

BadBoysDriveAudi: I'm arguing that if a university decides to record and disperse a lecture, they should do so freely. My second argument is that universities should seriously consider doing this for all lectures (or for lectures in high demand) because it's a very good idea.

OohShiny: Neither of those are arguments [complete with reference to Wikipedia].

First of all, let me state that I'm a geek and love Wikipedia. However, you shouldn't use the Wiki as your only source of defining the word argument. In fact, one should always question to validity of the information you find on Wikipedia because it can be altered or contain bad information. To borrow from your phrase, let's get real (as opposed to playing with subtle word definitions)...

When you walk into court and present a case, the action of presenting is called -- you got it, an argument. When the prosecutor contends something, it is his/her argument. When the defense does its thing, it's an argument. You have things such as closing arguments, etc... Last time I checked, those are persuasive speeches as well, as were the words I put down in my prior post.

The market doesn't "dictate", the market reflects demand. Demand exists apparently for both kinds of universities, those that record, and those that value presence. Given that both kinds of universities exist, what are you complaining about?

Ok, perhaps a poor word choice on my part, but I'm sure you got the point. Oh, and should we define the word complain? ;)