And who was denying reality here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM ?

And who do you think is responsible for most of the flames and poisoned dev environment over the past 4-5 years? Shockingly most of the same folks who are driving this new project...

Personally, I think it's great. Hopefully it'll draw Ciaran's buds away from Gentoo and maybe eventually Gentoo will be fun again.

But yes, losing Daniel was a tremendous loss.