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Comment Re:Strawman article with strawman title (Score 1) 720

And the form where i am typing this is not really GUI. The browser submits the data to a server and I will see my post back as html incoming from it as well????

Actually FTP, Email, Voice recognition or whatever the transport of the commands may be, is not the escence of the argument. The issue is that, if a configuration change is only available on GUI, it is difficult to automate. While there a many ways to automate a CLI based configuration change. Clearly in software evrything is possible. But out of the box, CLI administration. Particularly LINUX based has many automation tools based on the fact that anything can be done on a command line/text editor.

There is a MS vs LINUX subtext in the article. Because of the traditions in each of the camps. I do believe that LINUX has an edge once a willing admin is able to endure the hard task of remembering every random and arcane name or switch LINUX has to offer. So for the casual admin MS may be better.

Sure that may be an acomplishement for LINUX and for corageous admins. But it is far from ideal as well.

Comment GUI = big, complex, buggy Linux CLI = hard2learn (Score 1) 720

When are the teological discusions going to end. This is old news, and still people fight it as if their life depended on it. Chill out.

As humans we can make sense out of the lack of order in the linux commands. While the windows GUI with it's limitations is much easier to use. The sad part of the story is that we don't really have a better alternative to either of them yet. The windows powershell, althought I have not user it myself may be a wakeup call to Linux, or maybe not. While people are willing to learn arcane nomenclature and adhoc syntax, there is not really much any CLI alternative can do.

The bigger question is while we invest time in petty MS vs LINUX discussions, we miss the third alternative. What will be the better way to do what we do. the repetitive tasks. As well as ease of use and learning? Does a Steve jobs need to come and spell it out with a product (like he did with the iphone) before we can begin to understand that there ARE other posibilities!!!

That should be where our energies should be invested towards.

Comment Re:MySQL & LDAP? (Score 1) 345

If I read this right this is really bad!! It would be nice to know which are these third world countries. China used to be one of them and I'm not so sure It's the same country that it was when the term was born.

I just don't get this idea that somehow people from "third world" countries are that different from the rest of the world. The fact that this ideal poor person can afford a computer to begin with suggests that they would have the extra 50$ (or whatever in may be) to get the next version. I mean how different can the hardware requirements really be. Locking the operating system to run only 3 apps doesn't really lower the hardware requirements.

Next time it will be "We made a new books for those poor third world countries, we only printed the top half of the page and they are half off"

Come on, there are poor people everywhere including guess who... the US. Unless they envision people on food stamps buying their operating system it does not make sense for poor people in "third world countries" either.

Comment Some real shipping numbers in volume terms. (Score 1) 685

Lets make some real numbers in volume terms now.

A container from china costs from 2500$ to 3000$ to ship. They come in 45', 40' and 20' sizes. The smallest fits arount 33 cubic meters. At around 2 CFL per liter you could fit 66000. If we leave extra room let's say 50000. At 3000$ it costs 6 cents to get each CFL to the US. Now even if someone said "2 per liter? Baloney! the most you could fit is 20000!" well, fuel probably only accounts for 60% of the price anyway, so we are still talking cents.

We have less than 10 cents to ship versus 20$ savings. Come on!!! I think people have an aversion to anything china.

http://news.cnet.com/Sourcing-in-China-not-a-sure-bet/2030-1069_3-5561137.html [cnet.com]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Containerization#Dimensions_and_payloads [wikipedia.org]

Comment Re:Shipping Costs I'm not an anonymous coward (Score 1) 685

Real data, but let me put it in volume terms now.

A container from china costs from 2500$ to 3000$ to ship. They come in 45', 40' and 20' sizes. The smallest fits arount 33 cubic meters. At around 2 CFL per liter you could fit 66000. If we leave extra room let's say 50000. At 3000$ it costs 6 cents to get each CFL to the US. Now even if someone said "2 per liter? Baloney! the most you could fit is 20000!" well, fuel probably only accounts for 60% of the price anyway, so we are still talking cents.

We have less than 10 cents to ship versus 20$ savings. Come on!!! I think people have an aversion to anything china.

http://news.cnet.com/Sourcing-in-China-not-a-sure-bet/2030-1069_3-5561137.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Containerization#Dimensions_and_payloads

I just did the posting I am quoting. I am logged on I can see my user (arthernan) at the top of the page. And the "post anonymously" check box is empty.

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