Do you have a reference for Sarah Palin's position on fruit fly research? I would be fascinated to see that.
To quote the woman herself, from her 10/24/2008 policy speech in support of the Individuals with Disabilities Act (IDEA):
"You’ve heard about some of these pet projects they really don’t make a whole lot of sense and sometimes these dollars go to projects that have little or nothing to do with the public good. Things like fruit fly research in Paris, France. I kid you not."
She made no specific reference but it can be presumed she is referring to the 2008 appropriation for research into controlling the olive fruit fly by California Rep Mike Thompson, of which ~$211,000 did in fact go to research performed in France. The olive fruit fly is a harmful pest that causes considerable damage to crops in California and many other places. Rep Thompson defended this appropriation and it's allocation as follows:
"The Olive Fruit Fly has infested thousands of California olive groves and is the single largest threat to the U.S. olive and olive oil industries. I secured $748,000 for olive fruit fly research and irradiation in the (fiscal year 2008) appropriations bill for the U.S. Department of Agriculture. The USDA will use some of that funding for their research facility in France. This USDA research facility is located in France because Mediterranean countries like France have dealt with the Olive Fruit Fly for decades, while California has only been exposed since the late 1990s. This is not uncommon; the USDA has several international research facilities throughout the world, including Australia, China and Argentina.”
This says nothing of the valuable research into genetics and other biological systems that frequently utilize the more common drosophilla fruit fly, such as this, which could actually lead to treatment for the very people she claims to be supporting in the aforementioned speech. This dismissive attitude toward legitimate and useful science is very disturbing in a publicly elected official who should have a mature and non-simplistic understanding of how science and technology policy lead to practical benefits. But it would appear she either has a grade school understanding of the topic, or she was attempting to manipulate her constituency through sound bites that give the impression of a scrappy everywoman fighting senseless waste of taxpayer money. If the former, she is unqualified to participate and should keep quiet. If the latter, her image is tarnished by hypocrisy. (WARNING: PDF. See $1.5M in FY08 and $400K in FY09 for fighting invasive species in Alaska)
...rather than a Daily Kos Obamista screed...
Your bias is evident and name calling simply makes your argument less credible
Yes, let's talk about politicizing science:
Supporting your views I found:
http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2007/03/21/politicizing-science/
Indeed, your entire argument appears to presented there.
The left does it even more egregiously:
http://blog.heritage.org/2011/03/08/is-there-no-limit-to-obama-epas-politicization-of-science/
The first is a scathing indictment of BOTH parties for trying to force the square peg of science into the round holes of their ideologies. The second is simply evidence for more of the same on one side of the political spectrum. I'm not sure what your point is here...are you trying to counter my statement or simply restating what I said? Maybe I wasn't clear initially, so I'll make up for it now - I find the politically motivated manipulation of science to conform with an ideology to be a repugnant character flaw in policy makers regardless of their party affiliation or position on the politcal spectrum. Clear enough?
My definition of tangible science...
OK, sure. A bit tedious and forced but I'll go along with it. Your statement about SciAm is a bit of a non sequitur, though
Anthropology, paleontology, genetics, geology, chemistry and physics all have plenty of research that has nothing to do with evolution, and which meets every criteria of scientific thinking
All these disciplines (including biology, which we both missed) also have a tremendous amount of research that directly relates to evolution and which is a consequence of findings that have broader implications than just evolutionary science; you can't just pick and choose the pieces that appeal to you. There is also a tremendous amount of cross-checking and independant confirmation beween these disciplines as it relates to evolution, particularly with dating. For example, in geology, lithostratigraphy (which operates under the assumption that younger rock generally lies on top of older rock) is useful in dating fossils relative to each other as well as absolute dating. This is complemented by radioisotope dating techniques which ultimately come from nuclear physics. Calibration against growth rings in trees (botany) or deposit layers in ice cores (climatology) strengthens the case for radioisotope dating techniques for the fairly recent geologic past. Genetic sequencing shows similarities between related species, and analysis of the differences, when combined with other dating techniques and fossil evidence, gives us an approximate molecular clock that can tell us how long ago two species diverged from a common ancestral population. All these diverse pieces of evidence come into play when asking a question such as "How old is this fossil and what is it's relation to other species?" Many of the tools used in evolutionary studies were appropriated from other fields because they happened to be useful in that context as well as the original context. Radioisotopic dating is a very good example. If radioactive decay did not proceed in a statistically predictable manner, we wouldn't have nuclear power plants or PET scanners and it would be useless as a tool for studying evolution.
Where your reasoning falls down is when you conclude that evolution is the only explanation for what is observed. That is a leap that I will not make with you.
I did not claim that evolution is the only possible interpretation of the data, that would be an ideological claim, not a scientific claim...and I did not make it. I did make the oblique claim that there is no legitimate evidence for supernatural explanations involving creator gods from numerous contemporary or historical religions. I will also make a supplemental claim that evolution is the best supported interpretation we currently have to explain the diversity of life and biological systems we observe in the world today, particularly given the evidence we have for things being very different in the past.
The Genesis record also may explains what is observed.
In much the same way that the Easter Bunny Story explains how my dog manages to find a rotten egg or two under the bushes at the local park every spring. There is no supportable claim for the accuracy of the Genesis fable. However, if you insist on a literary interpretation, I am curious about your opinion on several other passages, such as Genesis 19:8 (throw your daughters to the crowd of rapists to protect a stranger), Genesis 19:32-36 (incest is not a particularly egregious offense compared to sodomy, or is it...Leviticus 20:11-14), Deuteronomy 21:18-21 (gather all the elders to stone an unruly son), Deuteronomy 22:23-24 (stone the vitim of rape), Numbers 22:28-30 (donkeys can talk, just like in Shrek), Isaiah 34:7 (unicorns exist), 1 Kings 2:23-24 (death by bear mauling is a fitting punishment for name-calling), 1 Kings 7:23 and 2 Chronicles 4:2 (Pi = 3), 1 Samuel 15:2-3 (scorched earth policy, genocide is OK), the entire book of Job (don't blame God if he kills your servants, livestock and family, reduces you to a beggar and visits all sort of other nastiness on you...it's just a test and you'll get more riches and prettier daughters in the end), Mathew, Mark and Luke all agree that one must hate one's family and one's self to become a follower of Jesus. The list of absurdities, barbarism, cruelties and debauchery goes on. What sane person would want anything to do with such a fickle, arbitrary, petty, omnicidal god. BTW - this is not actually a straw-man argument, it goes directly to the credibility of the Bible as an accurate historical document and it's relevance in the modern world.
The original article points out that folks accept science on the same basis that they accept religious tenants, because someone told them.
I find this far from conclusive. Is there an element of faith involved in the typical layperson taking a particle physicist's word for the existence of protons, gluons, etc? Certainly. One might be tempted to say this is no different than taking a shaman's word for the existence of evil juju infesting your hut and causing your sow to miscarry, or accepting the truth of the claim that an invisible magic-man who sees and knows all created everything from scratch a few thousand years ago and is intensely interested in who you sleep with.
There are profound and non-trivial differences in these two types of belief, though. Anyone can learn about the fundamental science behind the proton claim and perform an experiment to demonstrate whether the observed phenomenon matches the predictions. Anyone can also come up with a different theory or interpretation to explain a phenomenon and test it for validity. Such a theory may encounter tremendous resistance (the scientific community has enormous inertia in some areas), but repeatability and novel predictions that bear fruit will win the day eventually and hardly anyone will gird themselves for war to put down the heretical new theory. Science is a dynamic, living body of knowledge that is subject to challenge and accessible to anyone who is interested enough.
Religious faith on the other hand, is very narrowly predicated on the authority of an (often incomplete) collection of ancient texts, some of which were written decades or centuries after the events they portray, and which have often been supressed or accepted based on how well they supported a political ideology (Council of Nicaea being the most famous example). This authority is bolstered by unsubstantiated, non-repeatable, subjective, revelatory claims. Many of these claims follow periods of fasting, exertion, hypnotic techniques and "magic potions" all of which are known to produce hallucinatory experiences and feelings of expansiveness or connectedness. These states can also be induced by psychotropic substances, transcranial magnetic stimulation, brain lesions, stroke, epilepsy and various psychiatric disorders. New interpretations of scripture and conflicting revelations are actively discouraged in most religions, as evidenced by the many bloody persecutions and pogroms that have been conducted over very nuanced interpretations of religious scripture, dogma and tradition. (Cathars, Paulicians, Manichaeans, Anabaptists, Kurds, Baha'i, etc). Novel ideas in religion frequently do not lead to discussion and eventual consensus, but rather to fragmentation and rivalry of a scale and animosity unequaled by any other human undertaking. Religion is a body of largely static tradition and dogma that suffers challengers little if at all. It may be open to all or closed to all but a select elite, depending on the sect.
This has some very practical results: In Genesis we are shown a creation that is 'Good'(Gen 1:4) or 'Very Good' (Gen 1:20) If we see things that are not good, such as disease, we might interpret that as a descent from a previous better state, and look for the means to restore that better state.
Good is a subjective term with no absolute meaning. I can also claim something is good, but you can disagree. Disease is a good state for the organism causing the disease.
Evolution ultimately stultifies investigation, because the core assumption is random process, so the researcher is also ultimately random as well.
Not only wrong, but non sequitur. Genetic mutation is indeed a largley nondeterministic process in individuals, but natural selection in a population is anything but. Random mutations that lead to greater distribution of offspring are selected for by deterministic processes (longer legs allow you and your offspring to outrun predators more often, bright feathers are more attractive to potential mates, the ability to metabolize certain alkyloids protects against some venoms and environmental toxins). The statistical significance of any given beneficial mutation typically manifests over many generations, a timescale that is not part of our everyday experience, but which which makes the "evolution is completely random" argument fall apart. Your premise for evolution "stultifying investigation" because the investigator is random is utterly bizarre. However, the mirror image (religion stultifies investigation) is a tenable, even provable assertion. If one accepts that the good book says this is how it happened, there is no point trying to look behind the curtain. On the other hand, if one rejects this notion and assumes that physical phenomena are the result of physical processes, one is at liberty to discover the nature of those processes. It isn't necessarily easy, there may be blind alleys and obstacles to progrgess, but the efforts of many investigators using the self-correcting methods of scientific investigation will eventually lead to a body of knowledge that can be relied upon as a useful model of how things work and may even predict phenomena or consequences that had not previously been observed and which may yield exploitable results or explain other phenomena (quantum theory->lasers, germ theory->antibiotics, relativity->GPS, evolution->MRSA)
Evolution also encourages a destructive world view as well, since survival of the fittest is the ultimate virtue in evolution, it encourages thinking like Hitler's to destroy the 'lesser races' to make room for the 'master race'
Contrast that with Genesis, where man is declared at creation to be 'very good', and where God makes a way for every person to approach him by God's own means.
Really? Godwin's Law is in effect after only 4 posts. That's pathetic. This is one of the sillier arguments against evolution and is an association fallacy of the first order. First, Nazi eugenics was inspired by American eugenics in the first decades of the 20th century, so we should lay the blame where it truly lies. The selection of Jews as the primary target for ethnic cleansing in the Third Reich also grew out of 1500 years of European anti-semitism and Christian persecution of Jews. At any rate, it is individuals who assign virtue or value to things, not evolution. Evolution is simply a process of differential reproduction that operates over geologic time. Using the existence or features of this process to further an ideological goal is an entirely human activity that is only peripherally associated with evolution insofar as it justifies or reinforces an agenda. A much better argument can be made for claiming that numerous religions actively promote the subjugation and/or extermination of "lesser races" e.g. unbelievers, infidels, heretics, Canaanites, Amorites, Philistines, Shi'a, etc. Finally, even if your claim were true (evolution=eugenics) that doesn't make evolution any less valid, only less palatable