The overall topic of the thread is about comparing the performance of two browsers, and the summary listed electrical power usage as part of the comparison. Your post was discounting the power comparison portion and writing it off as "greenwashing" as if power comparison had no value other than being green. I am saying that power consumption is a valid technical comparison point for reasons beyond the political. It impacts the total performance possible on the machine (my point), and it impacts cost and battery life (points made in other threads here).
I don't understand your comment about the tasks being different between the two browsers. Each browser's task is to render a web page, if one browser uses less energy rendering the same web page as a different browser, it would objectively perform better by this metric. I would hope that anyone comparing browser performance by this (or any other metric), would have the two browsers render the same web page(s), and ensure that the networks were setup so that they hit the same physical target web server and that the target webserver was in the same cache state for each test.
Why would you care about power consumption, other than trying to use it to do greenwashing/green marketing? It needs as much power as is required to do whatever it needs to do. As long as I pay my electricity, who cares?
Because power consumption is a proxy for performance? If you run two different programs (performing the same task) on the same hardware, and one uses more watts (watt hours actually) than the other, then the one using more power resources is using a higher percentage of the total capacity of the system. Processors (and their related cooling infrastructure) have a limited amount of heat they can dissipate. While power consumed is not a (speed) performance metric for a computer running a single task, it is a performance metric when looking the capability of the whole system when the computer is doing multiple things. On a fully loaded system, software pulling more watts will bring down the performance of the overall system more than would software pulling fewer watts, assuming the system has thermal throttling, which most modern systems do.
There’s some legal, legalese you’ve got to work with, but everybody’s working with us on this,” he said. “I can’t even tell you how many different corporate America, Google, Apple, Meta, all these companies have said, ‘Whatever you need, Sheriff, they’re there,’ and we’re utilizing that leverage to get things done as quickly as we can.
“The data is being transmitted to the cloud, but even if it had not gotten there, there are many stops in between where data will reside, and the FBI prides itself on being able to tear into these data streams and pull out bits and pieces of data and piece together an image like we see here today,”
"Never lose your users' data" is kinda Rule #1. Steve Jobs said something similar regarding Apple OS upgrades. You never touch user data. Not sure why this is a difficult concept to understand.
Data (only) in the cloud isn't your data. Not sure why this is a difficult concept to understand...
Power grids are interesting in that at any given moment the power being consumed needs to match the power being generated; in theory every time you or someone else turns on or off a light, a generator somewhere needs to spin a little faster or slower. In the time lag between the light turning on and the corresponding generator speeding up, the frequency of the grid slows a bit until the corresponding generator speeds up. Realistically no single light (or small load) being turned on or off has impact because there are lots of lights being turned on and off and it all averages out. There are also things like the inertia of spinning mass and banks of capacitors and batteries that smooth the balance of grid consumption and generation. Power grids are engineered and tuned to handle a certain level of consumption swing.
Anyone here a grid engineer that has a real understanding (beyond my vague conceptual understanding) that can comment what a lot of 1MW swings (anytime someone plugs in or unplugs one of these truck chargers) does to a grid or grid design? Are 1MW "lights" being randomly turned on and off a challenge for our grids, or are or grids so large that even 1MW swings are just noise?
Apparently it is an API tightening, and not a ban.
That's encouraging news
The Spotty plugin for Lyrion Music Server, formerly Logitech Media Server, formerly Slimserver - one of the best, if not the best open source music player ecosystem out there appears to be a casualty of this. Looks like after "the big scrape", Spotify has tightened down their APIs and have for the time being locked out 3rd party players of Spotify music. Lyrion itself of course still works fine, but you can no longer stream Spotify via it. This sucks because while I can use the Spotify app on my phone or computer, if I want to have music playing throughout the house, there isn't a good way to synchronize multiple Spotify players. Lyrion has been able to synchronize players for multi-room playback way back to the Slimserver days (and way before Sonos was a thing.)
If the Spotty developer can't get it working again, I will likely drop my paid Spotify subscription and have to get my streaming music elsewhere, as the only reason I pay for Spotify is that it has been easy to stream through Lyrion. I suppose I can start downloading from Anna's...
Absolutely no beef here against the Spotty developer, they had the API rug pulled out from under them, and it's not yet clear if there will be a technical solution.
Dropping API support for paid customers is a great way to drive those customers to piracy.
But maybe we can make potentially crash inducing actions in the cockpit of a plane (like shutting off fuel to engines) something that requires input from two pilots.
One of the reasons we have two pilots is for redundancy in the case that a single pilot becomes incapacitated (or during emergencies, overloaded). How would a technology enforced rule that requires two pilots to agree on something work if one of them is incapacitated? Sure, you could have some system where a single pilot could override that rule, but then you are back to a single pilot making the decision. You could have additional monitoring so that if one pilot does something weird, the other is alerted, but in this case the other pilot noticed immediately (the voice recorder caught one pilot asking the other, "why did you do that"?), so additional monitoring would not have helped.
As others have noted, ultimately you have to trust the pilots as there are lots of ways a pilot desiring to do so could crash a plane.
IOT trap -- core dumped