When you have spent a lifetime scratching together a life, you actually have something to lose. [...] Once you are forced to deal with the real world, things start to change from your ideal, let's make a utopian society to, let's try to keep my family safe and fed.
When you have "spent a lifetime," period, you should be mature enough to understand that taking sides according to your myopic goals focused on your current time and place in life, does not translate to what's optimal for the society as a whole, which, by the way, includes you.
An Anti-Gun liberal is just someone who's wife/daughter/fiancee hasn't been attacked.
And you are just someone who wasn't born into an impoverished/unjust family/community/society, and didn't have to work or smile four times as much just to earn the same status, respect, or opportunities that other children were born possessing.
If you're willing to say that the "young" don't know what theyr'e doing because they haven't yet experienced certain aspects of life, i.e. their future lives, then why stop there? What makes you think that you know what you're doing, given that you haven't experienced certain aspects of life either, e.g. other people's lives?
Oh, wait, I get it. It's too hard to imagine being born again with a new hand, different family, different culture, and/or different race, and you'll be damned if you ever have to use abstract thought again!
See: Rawls.
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With all due respect, as I'm sure you are far more adept than I in reasoning, I think you may be mistaken in this case. GP has already provided some valid defenses in sibling comments, but I'll try to shed some light, in my own words.
"Why not let the parents decide if they want to abandon their newborn?" True, GP has substituted the question, but GP's point is that for some, "newborn" and "embryo" are not distinct. This is the very reason that GP has substituted the question, in order to make more clear the issue of begging the question, and I believe it is a valid substitution, given a hypothetical world where "newborn" is equivalent to "embryo". (For the record, I don't subscribe to that view. I'm only interested in the logical argument, here. GP may very well be on the same page.)
In other words, you say yourself that there is no consensus as to whether or not an embryo has rights. Then, we must consider both branches of hypothetical worlds. In one branch, you would have been correct that GP made a strawman argument--you cannot equivocate "newborn" and "embryo." However, in the other branch, and this is the branch GP was arguing, the substitution was valid, for in that hypothetical world, where an embryo has rights (in the same way that newborns do), it does seem wrong to assert, "Why not let the parents decide if they want to abandon their ___?", regardless whether we replace the blank with "newborn," "embryo," or "newbryo."
That said, I think GP has been dealt some great injustice in being modded Offtopic twice against your (incorrect but +5 Insightful) post.
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