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Comment Re:Notes? Please no!! (Score 1) 255

I don't want this to get into a domino vs the world thread, but I feel compelled to post. I don't think open-sourcing this is viable, or a good idea, but I want to chime-in, as I have experience on both sides.

Ahh, I've been in and out of Domino for about 10 years, and in and out of asp.net/C# for about the same. As a development tool, Notes is un-paralleled as a RAD tool, and that's also the main drawback.

Untrained employees can make some horrible databases and UIs, and then out come the 'Notes sucks' replies. Yet I've seen some horrendous FrontPage/VB sites used in corporations, and I rarely hear people say "IIS must die".

Notes gives you the tools, and it's an incredibly robust platform (I do a good bit of Java development in Domino, but you can use formula (proprietary), Lotusscript (VB-esque), or C if you like. The problem is that most people don't buy it for the application potential, and as an afterthought, the resident geek will download the designer client and go to town.

R8 of Domino is quite nice, speedy, and customizable, even if you're just using it for mail. What I'd rather see is IBM allow the client to be used at home for free, and host free Notes mail and application teasers on their site. That would show people what Notes 8 is, instead of relying on a site with 10 year old quotes and images from the 4.6 client (which admittedely, was pretty awful).

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