Xerithane's Journal: David Moinkers, you are an idiot.

Subject: Cease and Desist

Note that your organization has delivered to me "unsolicted commercial email".
  The state of Utah clearly defines the legality of such commercial email.

This notice is my official "mailing list removal notification", as described in
Paragraph 3. If your organization does not accept such requests via email, you
may be subject to additional legal penalties.

I hereby notify you that commercial email sent by you, your partners, or subsidiaries
to this email address, must be terminated. Failure to comply with this request
may result in civil and criminal penalties as defined by the laws of the State
of Utah.

In addition, I assume the right to bill you $10 for services. Send $10 and a
copy of this email with ten (10) days to:

David Moinkers
322 East 300 South
Salt Lake City, UT 84111
USA

Failure to comply with this request may result in legal action.

For information about rbexpress, send email to [e-mail].

Here's my suggested response:

David, due to your idiotic nature of failing to verify mail headers and SMTP servers I'm sending you this response. You have wasted my time, and bandwidth, resulting in a compensation bill of $30 payable immediately.

My address is commonly available from the InterNIC registry for the domain name in which you have accused me of sending unsolicited bulk email.

Failure to respond within 10 days will result in me laughing at you, and if I feel bored enough, filing a small claims suit against you for fraud in the Washington County, Oregon justice department.

I have your address, I have your name, I have your intelligence level which is on par with your common brick. Go educate yourself and mail me $30 for your ignorance.
-Xerithane

What do you guys think? Should I send that out?

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Re:Before you do

[Xerithane]

He sent the email to me, subject: Re: Worm Klez.E Immunity as I'm sure everyone here gets.

That is how I got his information, and his email address. It was sent to my nerdfarm.org domain account (xerithane at).

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Re:Before you do

[bmetzler]

He sent the email to me, subject: Re: Worm Klez.E Immunity as I'm sure everyone here gets.

So you replied to his virus, letting him know he had a problem? Stupendous!

-Brent

Re:Before you do

[Xerithane]

So you replied to his virus, letting him know he had a problem? Stupendous!

Uhm, no, did you read his email? He is sending it in response to the Klez.E immunity virus. I checked the mail headers and it's coming from his SMTP relay.

Re:Before you do

[bmetzler]

Uhm, no, did you read his email? He is sending it in response to the Klez.E immunity virus. I checked the mail headers and it's coming from his SMTP relay.

Yeah, your journal was a little vague. But I found it interesting. Let me see if I understand it now. Klez.E sent a virus to him with your return address on it. He then assumed it was from you, and tried to bill you?

-Brent

Re:Before you do

[Xerithane]

Yeah, your journal was a little vague. But I found it interesting. Let me see if I understand it now. Klez.E sent a virus to him with your return address on it. He then assumed it was from you, and tried to bill you?

Yeah, apparently that is exactly what happened. I really found it very funny, I think I should send him the response just because it will perpetuate the amusement!

I like it.

[Louis_Wu]

You might want to put a bit more in there about faked headers, and why you are not the person who sent him the email. Depending on how you feel, you might applaud him for trying to strike back at the spammers, but you aren't a spammer, so this is friendly fire, etc. If you're feeling really nice, don't sign him up for more spam. ;) Have fun with this.

I wonder what happens when...

[Zarf]

someone who is far less savvy than Xerithane gets an e-mail like this? Do they send the money? I wonder how many companies just send money rather than be bothered with silly law suits? I wonder if this would work for me? Hmmm... I'll try it with some poor unsuspecting schmuck's addy first.

Some how, like an itch you can't scratch, I have this feeling that my logic is flawed. Oh well. Off we go!

Let's see I'll pretend to be David Moinkers and I'll send a message demanding money to...

Auto-reply?

[DDX_2002]

That looks an awful lot like either a form letter or an automatic reply bot of some kind. It's also ironic that by demanding money he arguably is sending an unsolicited commercial e-mail in violation of the same Utah laws. Pretty sad that he knows there's an anti-spam law on the books, but not enough to check headers on obvious virus spam.

Does this twit really want to the test case for the constitutionality of the Utah UCE laws for ten dollars? Because the Utah bill looks an awful lot like the regulation of interstate commerce to me. But hey, IANAL.

Re:Auto-reply?

[Xerithane]

That looks an awful lot like either a form letter or an automatic reply bot of some kind. It's also ironic that by demanding money he arguably is sending an unsolicited commercial e-mail in violation of the same Utah laws. Pretty sad that he knows there's an anti-spam law on the books, but not enough to check headers on obvious virus spam.

I would say that it's definitely a form letter, but I doubt that it is an auto-reply. But, if it is an auto-reply than it definitely fits into the Bulk category of SPAM.

Does this twit really want to the test case for the constitutionality of the Utah UCE laws for ten dollars? Because the Utah bill looks an awful lot like the regulation of interstate commerce to me. But hey, IANAL.
I just think that it would be funny to file a Fraud case against him in my jurisdiction for, say, $100 and force him to come here for it. If he doesn't, I get judgement and get to laugh at him *snicker*