Comment Re:Rule of law (Score 1) 491
I agree with TWX in the idea that the death penalty should be maintained, but only in cases where rehabilitation efforts fail.
Deterrence and decrease of cost don't matter in such a case - when it is clear that a person CANNOT rejoin society AT ALL (as seems likely with Breivik, Norway treats criminals as people in need of help as a general rule), the death penalty makes sense. Humans are still animals; we put down rabid dogs* and other animals that would be dangerous in society after much less consideration and effort (although most would agree that humans deserve more consideration).
As for getting the wrong person, yeah - this needs to be reserved for cases where attribution is crystal clear, and there should be a system specifically vetting proposed cases (such as Breivik's). In Breivik's case, attribution IS crystal clear - no evidence points towards anyone else, and Breivik has actually promoted his murders in a Manson-esque style. However (seeing as how he has been kept in solitary and constantly subjected to a US-style prison experience), I'd argue that he would not yet qualify for the death penalty, because of the lack of effort made by Norway towards rehabilitation (so far as I know).
*After the discovery of the Milwaukee Protocol for humans with rabies, experimentation with rabid animals could yield substantial medical benefits for humanity; we maybe should rethink this in particular.
Deterrence and decrease of cost don't matter in such a case - when it is clear that a person CANNOT rejoin society AT ALL (as seems likely with Breivik, Norway treats criminals as people in need of help as a general rule), the death penalty makes sense. Humans are still animals; we put down rabid dogs* and other animals that would be dangerous in society after much less consideration and effort (although most would agree that humans deserve more consideration).
As for getting the wrong person, yeah - this needs to be reserved for cases where attribution is crystal clear, and there should be a system specifically vetting proposed cases (such as Breivik's). In Breivik's case, attribution IS crystal clear - no evidence points towards anyone else, and Breivik has actually promoted his murders in a Manson-esque style. However (seeing as how he has been kept in solitary and constantly subjected to a US-style prison experience), I'd argue that he would not yet qualify for the death penalty, because of the lack of effort made by Norway towards rehabilitation (so far as I know).
*After the discovery of the Milwaukee Protocol for humans with rabies, experimentation with rabid animals could yield substantial medical benefits for humanity; we maybe should rethink this in particular.