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Comment Re:Zero Emissions are worse?? (Score 2, Informative) 278

This isn't as simple as you're thinking. Nickel Metal Hydride batteries are manufactured as a paste and rolled or turned into prismatic cells. It's difficult to recover the elements put into the pack.

Replying directly to your request for a citation, the EPA has a nice page here describing all of the wonderful sickness you can enjoy when you have nickel in your water: http://www.epa.gov/ttn/atw/hlthef/nickel.html

Sounds like a great waste of energy to recover the batteries anyways;

"The recycling process starts by removing the combustible material, such as plastics and insulation, with a gas fired thermal oxidizer. Gases from the thermal oxidizer are sent to the plant's scrubber where they are neutralized to remove pollutants. The process leaves the clean, naked cells, which contain valuable metal content.

The cells are then chopped into small pieces, which are heated until the metal liquefies. Non-metallic substances are burned off; leaving a black slag on top that is removed with a slag arm. The different alloys settle according to their weights and are skimmed off like cream from raw milk.

Cadmium is relatively light and vaporizes at high temperatures. In a process that appears like a pan boiling over, a fan blows the cadmium vapor into a large tube, which is cooled with water mist. This causes the vapors to condense and produces cadmium that is 99.95 percent pure.

Some recyclers do not separate the metals on site but pour the liquid metals directly into what the industry refers to as 'pigs' (65 pounds) or 'hogs' (2000 pounds). The pigs and hogs are then shipped to metal recovery plants. Here, the material is used to produce nickel, chromium and iron re-melt alloy for the manufacturing of stainless steel and other high-end products.

Current battery recycling methods requires a high amount of energy. It takes six to ten times the amount of energy to reclaim metals from recycled batteries than it would through other means. "

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-20.htm

Comment Real Numbers! (Score 1) 1114

Here are some REAL NUMBERS - if you drive faster you _will_ have more drag and therefore consume more fuel. Yes, there are islands of greater efficiency on your engine and in higher gears you are running more efficiently, but these do not compare to the increase in resistance from driving faster. You can see real data from a 1998 VW Bug run repeatably and reliably for EPA testing here:http://picasaweb.google.com/waterppk/ResistanceNumbers#/ [Sorry for the crappy format, but I'm not going to post these on my website so you guys can nuke it!].

Disclaimer: I'm a mechanical engineering student at UW-Madison, I'm on the hybrid vehicle team and am working on a masters in engine research :) http://www.uwhybrid.org/ChallengeX/ http://www.erc.engr.wisc.edu/

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