Re:The Slowness Of Java (Score 1)

No teverybody has the money to shell out for the latest and greatest in hardware. My point is that it seems the Java worshipers seem to be testing Java on the lastest and greatest which may not be the average system.

What are you talking about? Do you consider the Geforce4 MX to be the latest hardware? That's what they did the Jake2/Q2 benchmarks on (http://www.bytonic.de/html/benchmarks.html). The Geforce 4MX was introduced in 2002 based, but it's a GeForce 2 (2000) chipset with an improved memory controller. It's technology is almost 6 year old - far from cutting edge.

For another example check out Tribal Trouble (http://www.oddlabs.com/technology.php) - it's a game built entirely in Java, it's 3D and it's requirements are - 700Mhz PC with a Geforce 2 MX to achieve 40FPS.

Both of these games operate just fine on below average hardware.