Comment Re:Honest question (Score 1) 432
I was referring to the total theoretically available fissile energy, as opposed to what's practical to actually extract - i.e. c^2*(mass of nucleus - (mass of protons and neutrons)), which is negative for everything before iron, and positive for everything beyond it. I haven't found a definitive source as to whether that "million times coal" specific energy figure is referring to that number, or to something smaller and more readily accessible - it seems like anything else would be a very fuzzy line dependent on the exact nature of the fissionning environment, but perhaps there's a standard set of assumptions used to compute such things.
There is nothing theoretical about the energy released from fission. Fission of one atom of U-235 releases 202.5 MeV of energy in total. 89% of that is prompt, i.e. at the instant of fission, which is all transformed into heat in a reactor. The remainder is from beta decay and gamma emission. Beta decay produce antineutrinos which are very weakly interacting and thus escape into space, which mean that about 4.3% of the total energy they represent can not be captured. Realistically we won't capture all the decay heat since about 10% is on the order of 200k years or more. But 83% of all fission products decay within 10 years, so in that time frame we will be able to utilize ~94.5% of all fission energy, which is still 2.65 million times more than burning the same mass of coal.
Some simple number crunching for a kg of U-235: U-235 has an atomic mass of 235.043929918, and a kg of it would thus equal about 4.25452382603 mole. Multiplying that with Avogadro constant we get that a kg of U-235 consists of of ~2.562134*10^24 atoms. Each atom when fissioned releases 202.5 MeV giving a total of 5.18832135*10^26 MeV, or about 23.09 GWh.
Coal on the other hand is about 8.136 kWh per kg, once again showing that for the the same mass, fission of U-235 gives in the ballpark of 2.8 million times more energy than coal.
And I would hesitate to say "never" on what future reactors might burn, the technology is still in it's infancy, and we know that *anything* will fission with the aid of a particle accelerator, and that for all but the first 26 elements the reaction itself will be energy-positive, the question is only whether practical considerations will prevent us from productively capturing the excess. All going critical buys you is a self-sustaining neutron source, which while simple isn't necessarily the ideal solution. There may well be other, more elegant solutions as yet undreamt of.
From a nucleus standpoint the reaction might be energy positive, but the energy required to accelerate the particles to induce fission mean that you could end up with a negative EROEI. I've had a very difficult time though finding actual numbers on how much energy is released from the fission of elements lighter than thorium, so it's hard to estimate how useful it would be for energy generation.
I stand by my "wildly speculative" assertion - the quantity of fissionables in the Earth's crust is a crude estimate loaded with unstated assumptions, and the rate at which future generations will consume energy is anybody's guess. At 30 billion years crustal recycling would allow us to extract them without severe damage, and in fact the sun is scheduled to render the Earth uninhabitable long before then. At 1000x the rate it would take only 30 million years though, and processing the entire crust on that timescale we would reduce the planet to a volcanic slagheap unless we somehow managed to preserve its structural integrity while doing so. One possible aid could be to harness bacteria or plants - several existing species concentrate uranium and/or thorium in their tissues to levels 10-100x that found in their environment.
You using a 1000 fold increase in energy usage as an argument is laughable. There are thermodynamic limits to how much energy we can use on earth before the waste heat starts affecting the climate. 1000 fold increase is way past that, and would increase global temperature to that of our body temperature. We would have to leave earth and colonize the solar system way before that, which would result in the resources of the solar system opening up for us, including all the fissile material out there.
A five fold increase in energy use would be more realistic, which come from the assumption that the world would increase to and hold steady at a population of 10 billion, while per capita consumption rate rises to US levels of 10 kW, giving a global energy consumption rate of 100 TW. Even more realistically though would be that it only increases to 60-70 TW given that a lot of the US consumption is pure waste. UK for example manage with just over 5 kW of per capita consumption.
As long as population does not increase, there is very little that is going to dramatically increase the amount of energy humanity uses.