If the topic is strong enough for a front page story I am sure there is quite enough playerbase who still enjoy the pre-trammel PVP ruleset. I personally ran a private UO server for years that was very successful pre-trammel rules, and no, not everyone was killers. a Lot of them took pride in their houses and would go out in groups to hunt down the local thief, who was usually walking around town naked. I miss those days - I purposely lived in Felucca not only for cheap housing but for the risk of running into some red on my way home. I never liked crybabies. Once a guy was outside my house AFK so I killed and looted him, for him to whine that his kid was throwing up and he had to leave the computer. He should have been hidden and not in felucca to begin with. So I apologized, gave him all this stuff back and then healed him. He said thank you, you are the nicest guy I met in Felucca, most people would laugh and keep my stuff. To which I then proceeded to kill him, and loot him all over again. He then said WTF?! I then said "So was your kid throwing up again this time, or do you just suck?"

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