Please. The standard is just fine for any honest company trying to make a product that works. It just wasn't written as an ironclad legal contract to keep MS from playing dumb and intentionally breaking compatibility.
Standards are created to make sure something, like software, can output a verifiable item that others can use. If you have a standard that says to do certain things, but makes no mention of others, you don't just copy your competitor. You follow the standard or wait for it to get updated.
Other comments? I don't have to because I actually bothered to read about the topic before discussing it. There is one other compatibility problem among the programs tested and it is because one of the programs is using the newer version of the spec. Saving from OO as ODF 1.1 is compatible. Thats completely different from being incompatible with every other program implementing the same version of the spec.
Microsoft followed a standard and because OpenOffice or anyother program can't actually open it always, you blame the company for following the standard set out?
Please educate yourself before trying to argue. There is a working plug-in for MSOffice licensed under the BSD license so MS can simply copy and paste if they want. They've done it before with BSD code.
Sure they could use that code or inspect the ODF files, but you miss the point everyone here is making: The standard is what Microsoft follows, not the competitor's method of implementation.
Bullcrap. This is about a standard that is fine for any honest company and about one company intentionally trying to break things to harm competition.
Again, they followed a broken standard, just because OpenOffice and others copied eachother doesn't mean Microsoft or others should. You follow the standard otherwise what is the point?
Yeah, except nobody else had any real problems including small hobbyist groups. Believing your crap is insane. In fact, your position is so unbelievable, I strongly suspect you're an astroturfer. You have a history of all of 13 comments, almost all of which are defending Microsoft. You're either a paid shill or you really drank to kool-aid.
Oh look, I can click on your name too and recount how many comments you posted. You seem to support Mac/Google/OpenOffice and love to bash people of opposing views. I don't care that you like open source, in some cases I do as well, but I use and work with Microsoft products daily and reading comments that always blame Microsoft is sickening. Microsoft and Open Source have their problems, quit pretending that OS is perfect and Microsoft is the anti-christ. They are no different than any other corporation (Google? Sun? IBM? Don't be evil, yeah, right).
At which point you'll still be apologizing for them and say we should wait till 1.3 to complain?
If the standard is strict like other open standards, and they still fail to be compatiable, I wouldn't "apologize" for them.
Yeah it was so vague every other company managed to implement it just fine, including Microsoft in the plug-in they hired someone to write and whose code is BSD licensed so they could have just copied and pasted, since it was already working with MSOffice as a plug in. I have this bridge you might be interested in Brooklyn.
Actually, if you read another comment on this article, you'd see that other applications actually didn't handle the standard all that well like you claim.
Bullshit! There are multiple reference implementations and free code available and even small hobbyist projects had no problem. Even MS is not that incompetent. Their failure to insure their product worked with all the other products out there that work fine is inexcusable and any judge who buys your crap is an idiot. This is clearly an antitrust violation. Hopefully MS won't be able to settle their way out of a conviction this time.
"Free code". You do realize that many of those "free" code samples are licensed that would require Microsoft to open source Office or portions of Office. This is about a standard that was weak and failed to state everything clearly. Asking any company to follow it is insane. Microsoft could of copied OpenOffice, but even OpenOffice wasn't perfect. Who do you follow, your competitor or the standard? I'd follow the standard.
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