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Comment Re:Dey tek er jebs! (Score 1) 332

Here's a list of per-capita GDP (PPP) by country:
Pick a reasonable place on the chart to start the third world, and tell me that's what US companies are paying H1-B programmers. India, for example, is about $7k USD per capita. Are programmers working for that here? No, they're working for like 5x that. I bet most H1-B workers are either at or above the US level (55k).
So, what's your complaint again?

Comment Re:Dey tek er jebs! (Score 1) 332

They're only price-competitive for their market if you define their market as "American IT workers", in the same way that US steel is price competitive only if you're talking about a certain type of steel produced in the US. I agree that the lock-in part is bullshit, and should be abolished, but the overall ideal is still completely open borders and a free flow of goods, services, capital, and labor. Question: if not for the lock-in part, which I agree probably exerts a downward pressure on wages (although I don't know the significance of that pressure), would you be fine with importing foreign workers?

Comment Re:Amazingly facile (Score 1) 332

No, but you could easily argue that the relatively free trade we engaged in even in the 70's and 80's was as much a "government-run program to import foreign goods" as the H1-B program. In fact, the auto workers probably have a better case, because we didn't have absurd quotas on how many BMWs and Toyotas we could import. In fact, the government, via those quotas, actually provides a subsidy to American tech workers by preventing them from having to absorb the full impact of competition in the labor market. H1-B is a restriction, not a gift. So, the analogy maybe falls down a little bit, but only because it's giving IT workers too much credit.

Comment Re:Dey tek er jebs! (Score 1) 332

Well, I said what I meant to say, but I also agree with your statement. In the same way that I have no problem with people buying foreign goods that non-competitive American firms provide, I have no problem with American firms buying foreign labor that non-competitive American workers could provide. If that ends up being a temporary negative for me for a time, that's a.) my own responsibility, and b.) a price I'm happy to pay for the benefits of a globalized economy. An Indian or whatever is no less a person than an American, no less worthy of a job to sustain themselves and grow. There's nothing inherent about geographical boundaries that changes the moral calculus about whether or not someone "deserves" a job.

Comment Dey tek er jebs! (Score 0, Flamebait) 332

It's amazing how much tech folk can sound like auto workers in the 80's bitching about Americans buying foreign cars. The only thing lamentable about the H1-B visa is how it turns foreign-born employees into virtual slaves of whoever their sponsoring employer is. Every other complaint is just a variation on "I shouldn't have to be price competitive because I was born in America".

Comment Go objects (Score 4, Interesting) 185

I'm curious as to the design decisions that led to the way that Go objects are implemented, which feel and seem to operate like C structs w/ function pointers. Yes, all objects are essentially structs with function pointers, but most languages provide a good deal of syntactic and functional candy on top of them to make them more useful. With Go objects, you get sortof-inheritance, sortof-polymorphism, and sortof-encapsulation, which requires re-thinking a lot of design patterns that people learn working with languages like C++, Java, and even PHP. That's not necessarily a bad thing, I can see arguments for forcing people to get out of their comfortable patterns, I'd just like to know why.

Comment Re: Dey terk er jebs! (Score 1) 614

Oh, ok, you're just a rule of law conservative. So, it's safe to assume that you're equally incensed by and demand punishment for people who do drugs, violate intellectual property, record conversations with public officials in two party consent states, etc. And, because you use legislation to determine morality, you have no problem at all with market segmentation because it's legal (you specifically pointed out legal barriers to US consumers getting the same price).

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