I think you misunderstood the issue. The problem isn't the camera or the footage it captures. The problem is access it provides to 3rd parties.
At basic level:
1. Other parties make money off of your investment and you get nothing in return.( unless your argue it brings neighborhood security)
2. You haven't consented to yourself & your family to be under surveillance and I suppose Law Enforcement no longer needs a warrant to watch your/s movements.
3. Not that I have heard about this, but hypothetically if a 3rd person is charged based on video captured from your camera, are you in any way liable for any lawsuits for undue surveillance or will that evidence be even admissible as the *alleged perpetrator* had nothing to do with you...

I think I am getting carried away in this though process.

Back to my original point, Problem with Ring camera as far as I am concerned is based on my experience... I have one that I recently removed before all this commotion. My reason, it didn't allow me to access the video stream. One had to subscribe to ring service if they want recording, or use Ring's mobile/web app to watch live stream. I wanted neither. I replaced it with Tapo doorbell with chime. It can do everything that Ring does, however it now feed into my NVR(zoneminder) because it has ONVIF/RTSP etc. It also came with door chime. In other words, at least after initial connection, it doesn't need any Internet connection to function. My NVR is configured to capture on motion, hence any activity is captured locally and directly accesible.

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I generally don't comment much here but I just had to reply to this. I grew up in Punjab, India before migrating to Canada in early 90s. Anyhow, I still vividly remember going to Leh, Ladakh & Dharamshala during my summer vacations. While there one would notice the refugees which at the time looked like outnumbering the locals. All those refugees were either Chinese or Tibetans fleeing Chinese persecutions. It was indeed really a sorry sight, and at the time me and my friends did whatever we could at the moment to help them. We didn't have much cash, but we tried to help by giving whatever we had and also extra clothes that we had for our trip.
I recall seeing 2-3 year old kids who were rescued by fleeing refugees and nobody knew who they belong to, because Chinese government had killed indiscriminately when annexing Tibet. With annexation of Tibet,Chinese government knew then, that they can do anything and rest of the world either doesn't care or too scared to get involved. Yes there was sanctions and noise...but nothing of effect.

My second trip the next was literally a helping mission, when we asked for donations from nears and dears to take there. I still remember how much they appreciated getting old clothes, pots and pans. But to the see the suffering of those people was gut wrenching. Indian government was trying to do whatever it could by providing some(barely) medical services etc. But yeah, Chinese government (not people) if not the most terrifying certainly is up there in committing atrocious crimes against its own citizens and that of its neighbors.

It may very well be that my experiences might have influenced my bias, but Sir, you cannot in good conscience say that Chinese government doesn't commit atrocities. They may very well do lot of good and humane things but that doesn't negate the facts.

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For what it is worth...I was in India a while back in summer. Almost every household there had this thing called Inverter hooked up right at the mains. Basically a step up/down transformer hooked up to a truck battery (car battery wasn't considered powerful enough). With daily power cuts, the inverter kicks in to keep basic light and essential services (Fridge, freezer etc.) running.
There are variety of reasons why people there are doing this but as a concept it is already being done, when about half the city has a power cut, yet most of them are running on battery power. I must add, it is was at the time/place considered illegal to have these devices cause they put extra load on the grid when they are on charge.

Except you are forgetting, with cable you pay for the service and still have to watch the commercials. Free TV broadcasts over the air has commercials, and that is acceptable as per your point. Someone has to pay, but with cable you are paying twice.

Uhm, the world is already adjusting to that scenario...all eyes on Merkel

You got anything to backup this statement? We have gun control here in Canada, granted there is still gun related crimes but police response to any crime is almost immediate. At least in Peel Region, they are fast.
Guns kill people, plain and simple. US has most number of guns per capita, yet its jails are over crowded, violence and gun-related death are probably highest in any developed nation. By your logic, guns should have eliminated all crime.

Obviously society is not so easily contained by simplified statements and analysis. I agree, any non-us resident would not understand the US's infatuation with guns, but at what point will there be reform in policies that reduce gun crime, racism and other related *self-imposed* ills in American society. Why is it, that a country known to be at the forefront of tech., science, philosophy and tolerance also is known for most incarcerations, racism and intolerance etc.

Does that make sense, I'm confused.

Hmm,
How many times did you have to do an Oil/Filter/Spark Plug etc. Change. How much GAS cost for 100KMs vs. Cost of Electricity to charge it for 100KM. So on and so forth.

I don't foresee the batteries as a long term issue. What will eventually happen, once there are enough EVs on the road, you will see batteries becomming a standard and battery stations will start cropping up.
Essentially Gas stations will start carrying these standard batteries, you will pay monthly/yearly fee for the service. Once you are running low, you pull into these battery stations and someone or robotically, your battery will be replaced with a fully charged one. You will be in/out in less than 5 minutes. Then you will never have to worry about old battery, cause the cost of maintaining the battery will be handled by the battery charging station. Obviously they will work out a metric for the cost of the doing that, add 1000% profit and then pass over the bill to you. Even at that price, you will be happy cause it is still cheaper than GAS. Even more competition will drive the cost down.

Needless to say, Electricity manufacturers will be the new overlords.

You missed the key point too.

The anon poster before you had the right idea.

If all he needed was the mac address, then he didn't even need the laptop. He could have spoofed the Mac Address. Most likely there was additional network security which is why he needed the laptop. It could be a cert/key etc. too that was on the laptop which he couldn't spoof.

The world's largest democracy is the result of "NO GUNS". Gandhi/Civil disobedience/Non Violence movement was no match for Guns?

Today's society has no place for guns. Public unrest is what topples governments. Guns rebellions nowadays are replied by bombings. Guns are simply an answer to low self esteem.

Rather elaborate description just to say that you believe in a fairy tale that God exists. For a person that sees the colour vs. one that doesn't. It can easily be proven, by using instruments. Although it may be simple enough as taking a black white picture of of green & red patches. The different shades of gray will indicate the presence of different colours.

I actually knew few people that were colour blind, and they considered that to be a disability. Why stop at colour, how about a completely blind person. While I have never had a chance to ask a blind person if he/she believes if I can see, I am doubtful that a blind person will ever say, "No, You can't see, cause I can't and hence it must be true".

Bring that person to me, and I will prove colour is real. God is a figment of imagination, and for a colour blind person God is transparent in colour. In my personal opinion, people who believe in god make assumptions, and then reinforce their assumptions with other assumptions. They tend to get so used to it that eventually they don't even realise the difference between an assumption and fact. Born in India, I grew up in religion, learnt about Sikhism as part of my upbringing, went to a catholic school, learnt all about that. Had friends who were Hindus, Muslims, Aryans (yes Aryan) . I was deeply religious up until early twenties, but loved to read and learn more about science, advances in astronomy, earth sciences etc. All that started making more sense than any religion, and started questioning my own beliefs which either made no sense or could be explained very rationally using science. Imagine having a God, who can see when you are having sex, who watches while you shit, who makes you sick, who makes you fail, who kills people for fun, who makes deformed children, still born etc. Just so that people will be afraid and pray.. egomaniac or god?... I can keep on blabbing...but you should've got the point by now. I do aplogise for incorrect grammar, and broken English.

Production wise, Lotus notes from 96. The server was originally implemented as a Scheduling system and email server; Email was ported long ago, but it still runs the production schedule. On the other hand, my friend has a machine shop. He has a CNC Boring machine, that is from the 60s(I am assuming). Only way to feed the program to this machine is through punch tape. He had called me to see if I can figure out any other way of doing it. Upon opening the computer box, oh boy, huge motherboard with loads of wires, rather than screwing something and turning his machine to scrap. I decided to acknowledge it was way out of my league. On that note, what really got me, was he can still buy those tape reels at the machine supply store. And he has tape copy machine, you feed tape on one side, and the it punches the tape on the other side. The whole thing is mechanical. so Punch tape still in use.

Funny, Working in graphics company here, I've got few iMacs with Yosemite, and they need to be rebooted multiple times during the day. Whilst iMacs & PowerMacs on 10.8 are stable. I can't reliably downgrade a new iMac to older versions reliably enough, cause either they don't work or still have issues. Got lots windows machines too, they work just fine. Same goes with Windows and Linux servers. Can't say the same for OS X server(on xserve, remember those)...cause apple discontinued that. In my (emphasis *my*) 15 years of experience of working in IT, Workstations both PC & Apple are virtually identical. From support point of view, they are both un/reliable. Enpdoint protection, security policies have generally kept machines working reliably just as well. In the 90s while windows boxes were rebooted, running system 7,8 wasn't much better either. All the Mac's needed just as much rebooting if not more. Even upto system 9 things weren't as rosy as most people would make you believe, If I recall correctly it was 9.2 finally when things got stable, but then OS X hit. On that note, Our first Xserve with OS X server was an interesting beast. The OS would completely drop networking support if you changed the IP of the machine. Granted it was early and first few iterations of OS X, but a server that can't be networked reliably is not something that only MS is guilty of. Not trying to bash Apple or anything, but when you are working and supporting Apple, Windows & Linux camps, you realize that they all are the same, they each have their strong points and weak points...all the same.

1000 years of Peace????? where????

Here in Canada, we have less guns, less crime and less prisoners per capita than US. By your logic, this is absolute proof that guns are indisputable proof of the idea that, "More guns equal more crime".