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Comment Re:For limited values of 'you'. (Score 1) 151

If I am going to consult I can save customers money by using the pro version.

I never said it would save money, per se. Although it might. Depending on how the per user enterprise licensing actually works out when it comes to VMs, desktops, laptops etc.

From what I read here from slashdotters the pro version has no GPO support whatsoever, all commercials that take up full screen ads, all updates forced with no settings, etc. I have news? I own 10 pro! I see nothing of the sorts other than tinfoil hats getting +5s.

I own it too, several copies (6+ at least in my household). I never said it didn't support GPOs or anything. And you are right, so far other than telemetry and some issues with updates, all the nonsense can be turned off. But I'm tired of rebooting my PC after a big update having to find some new crap that needs to be turned off on all my computers.

Out-of-the box my start menu was full of crud, it wanted me to sign up for a microsoft account, and cortanta wanted to shove msn celebrity news gossip down my throat, and suggest app store apps... when I was searching for files on my local computer. Ok, no problem, I turned all that crap off and every single personalization/advertising/privacy sucking setting I could find -- all 2 pages worth on the settings off, off, off, off, off.... and I installed spybot anti-telemetry to deal with the one item MS wasn't giving me the proper option for. I am mostly fine with automatic updates, so those weren't a deal breaker for me. And then I was happy with the desktop... a nice incremental upgrade over 7 with some cool features like hyperV and desktop workspaces etc.

Then a month later, another update, I come downstairs to find my lock screen is a full screen ad for some nonsense. So now I turn that off on all my computers. Then a month later, another update, and I click the windows logo and "Get Facebook - featured app!" has been added to my start menu. So now I have turn that off this new "Suggest featured apps to me on my startmenu" setting on all my computers.

The anniversary update likewise botched a few things -- reset Edge back to the default, and put the app store icon back on my taskbar. (Although the edge thing sounds like a bug... or at least that's their story...)

My complaint isn't that i can't turn this adware stuff off, because I can (so far). My complaint is that its being pushed on me turned on in the first place. And my understanding has been that enterprise customers are getting treated better and that these adware updates aren't being defaulted on for them. So they don't have to waste their time fixing this crap that NOBODY wants. And longer term there seems to be a pattern emerging, and coupled with the 'Windows 10 is the last version' and 'all future upgrades will be free....' I think it's reasonable to be suspicious that the consumer platform is steadily heading towards 'ad supported', so I'm looking at the enterprise platform where I'm still the customer. Maybe its not time to cut over from pro to enterprise just yet... but 2, 3, 4, 5 years from now? It seems pretty plausible to me.

Comment Re:For limited values of 'you'. (Score 1) 151

I don't disagree with you. The trouble is that I'm finding pro is steadily becoming more 'managed by microsoft' than 'managed by me', and increasingly it's becoming an 'ad delivery platform'; given Microsofts positioning of Windows 10 as the 'last version of windows' and continually supported and updated for free... I read that as with Windows 10 "You're going to be the product now. Not the customer".

So while I get the 'features' like hyperV and GPO etc... I don't get enough control over stuff like the updates, telemetry, store, and each update i find new nonsense to turn off .. "like suggested apps" and lock screen advertising. And I know the enterprise version is generally exempt from this crud by default.

With the enterprise edition the relationship is still: "You are the customer."

Comment Re:For limited values of 'you'. (Score 1) 151

You're not a 'power user' if you're looking for ways to buy yourself out of abuse.

The only 'abuse' I'm buying my way out of is the telemetry. And I agree that

The ability to manage my own updates is definitely something non-experts are terrible at, and need to have managed for them. I'm glad clueless idiots can't run around with unpatched systems anymore, not because they have any reason to avoid a patch... they just hit cancel every day straight for the last 3 years because they wanted to check facebook. And then completely disabled UAC because some antique label printing software needed them to run as administrator but rather than just 'run as administrator' they disabled UAC entirely...

Those people need their OS to just slap them forward.

And features like hyperV, RDP, and the reset of the stuff that pro/enterprise versions feature are all stuff the regular consumer doesn't know about, never mind actively uses.

You're Microsoft's bitch. Better have daddy's money on time. And get ready to get slapped around anyway, because that's how daddy keeps his bitches in line.

Cute, but the metaphor breaks down because while the consumer OS whether pro or home continually makes you feel like you are fighting for control -- paying enterprise customers get treated like... well...actual customers. The enterprise OS actually does what they want.

Comment Re:For limited values of 'you'. (Score 1) 151

No you think rationally. What are the huge compromises you speak of?

My accounting software is quickbooks. I also use Microsoft Office (mostly Excel and Word). Quickbooks integrates with Excel. None of that is on linux.

At work I do several things that are Windows or Windows / OSX only. (Filemaker Pro, Quickbooks, Navision, various industry tools, Visual Studio, etc) So its nice to be able to work from home sometimes with locally installed software instead of remoting to the RDP server. And we have hyperV at work, so its nice to be able to migrate/clone VMs back and forth to my home office in some cases.

Just admit up front you want to play games.

For sure. Games is a big deal as well. My HTPC is windows for the games.

And who is running IIS anymore?

Its perfectly fine for hosting b2b middleware like WCF services etc. I have no issues with it. I mean, I've got a debian box next to me with Apache and owncloud and so forth too... its not like I'm windows-only or anything. My laptop is OSX.

I pity people who can't make a living in IT without touching MS.

Its just tools in a toolbox. Use the right tool for the job. Linux is great, but its not the right tool for a lot of jobs.

Comment Re:For limited values of 'you'. (Score 5, Interesting) 151

Its rapidly becoming the case that the enterprise edition is the 'new' pro edition.

Whereas with XP through 8, I just wanted to have pro to be able to run my own IIS, accept incoming RDP, not have to deal with the idiot simplified user permissions etc, with win8 pro came hyperV... etc In each case, Home edition was awful, while Pro was a good OS.

With 7/8 Enterprise has some extra bitlocker stuff I think? And the VLA license management features that only an enterprise would need.

But with 10, "pro" is garbage too, and all the features I actually want are now in Enterprise edition. (Turn off telemetry, more control over windows update, Edge in a Virtual Machine...)

So im coming to the conclusion that us 'power users' that until now always wanted pro should now be looking for the enterprise edition.

Of course enterprise is currently a lot more expensive than pro, with recurring subscription fees.

But this is looking to be the carrot and stick approach; (and mostly for businesses -- us power users are just caught in the middle of it.) Home users are being corralled into Windows 10 Home (and Pro at this point is really just Home+) where their updates are managed and theyre expected to be all appy and cloudy and monitored with telemetry.

While businesses (and people) who need to get shit done, and don't want their windows computers scheduling an update before an important meeting, and don't want to send telemetry to redmond,etc, etc... (i.e. people like me) -- should be using enterprise.

Us power users should be looking to use enterprise. (Assuming as always that we wish to use windows at all, which in my case at least, while I love my linux -- I am not interested in the huge compromises necessary to make it my primary desktop.

Ah but Windows 10 Enterprise is nasty for individuals to get a hold of what with Microsoft VLAs and the byzantine and downright hostile Software Assuarance licensing crapola.

So when I read about something like this...

Windows 10 Enterprise E3 / 7$ seat / month. And it sounds like its being aimed to be run like office 365... suddenly things start to come into focus...


" It's worth highlighting, though, that a business of one employee can take advantage of it, however. "

Interesting right!? (I mean yeah, this is /. so the pitchforks are out in force... and I should switch to linux everything... but think about it rationally...)

There is going to be the non-recurring windows 10 home edition and the home+ (aka pro), the spyware adware versions. And there is going to be Windows 10 enterprise, the only one businesses and power users will want but at $7/seat/month.

So If one seat of Enterprise really is per user? and I can put it on my desktop, laptop, and a couple hyperv virtual desktops like i can Microsoft office... all for 84/year... and I can turn off automatic updates and do them when i want, and I can turn off telemetry...

On the one hand... ugh... rent seeking subscription -- the business model for companies who really can't compellingly improve there product but still want the same revenue they were getting when each release was a must-have. And yeah.. Windows has reached that point I guess. "XP does all I need" people are still all over the place.

On the other hand... $7/month for an actual good windows user experience with the kind of control I want over it, with continual support in the form of antivirus and security updates...ok... I'm listening.

Comment Re: I'm Confused (Score 3, Informative) 111

Agreed. I used to use StartSSL certs for several things over the last decade. And I too have moved to and endorse (for whatever little that's worth) LetsEncrypt.

The official lets encrypt client didn't meet any of my needs when i first switched although it may be better now (!?) Things seem to have been moving along over there.

I currently use the acme.sh client on linux and it's been solid and easy to use. I don't have anything positive or negative to say about the multitude of other options. And again... things have likely moved along a lot since i switched a year ago.

Comment Re:Who wants one? (Score 1) 185

That's exactly what Siri does. RTFM

Link? Because everywhere i search i find references to the iphone basically recording your command, and sending the audio clip to be processed by the cloud.

It sounds like maybe in some cases it'll figure out an answer even without the cloud. But odds are it sent it to the cloud while it was processing it locally, just in case.

And while I'm find with the agent on my phone sending specific requests to the cloud, the raw audio of every command I give it... nope.

So if you have a link that counters this then enlighten us with a reference, rather than just an 'RTFM'.

Comment Re:Who wants one? (Score 1) 185

Does anyone actually know a programmer who want such a thing?

Me. I want FOSS voice commands for my phone.

I'd be much more likely to work on projects that help improve security and isolation.

That's precisely why I want such a thing. I don't use Siri etc precisely because the idea of an open mic to Google/Apple etc creeps me right out and represents a huge security hole The only software I'd begin to trust is an FOSS that I could really know what it was doing, and what it was sending.

I mostly just want it for car/bike navigation/ in can sending SMS (e.g. to an incoming phone call or text -- "reply with canned 'im driving' message"; or "tell X 'ill be there in Y minutes" and a few other commands. I'd want it to do all voice processing on the phone, and only send out specific types of requests to the internet. (e.g. if I request it to map a street address... it can send the address out.

Comment Re: The power of a concentrated marketplace (Score 4, Insightful) 183

The loss of reputation has a direct impact on revenue.

And how much were you paying them before?

Even the summary mentions the companies are having a hard time quantifying the costs of lost PR.

Just ask yahoo. I trust them even less now.

And how much is your trust worth to yahoo? How much money were they getting from you before? How much now?

Most people don't really seem that affected by breaches. Hell, I would have thought the breach at Ashley Madison would have done them completely in on reputation loss alone...

Comment Re:24 Hours? (Score 1) 97

What's the point of mentioning deceptive measures of time like this?

Because regardless of how long he had to work on it or how old the exploit is the fact still remains that the device was rooted within 24 hours of launch.

So if you want to root your iphone 7 ... natch... you can. Day 1. And Playstation/Xbox owners are jealous.

And if you were betting with your friends that it would be months before anyone rooted it thanks to new security features and ios10 etc... well....then you lose.

Comment Re: It uses the Handoff framework (Score 1) 200

My 'weird' personal configuration is pretty much the norm.

My kids play with my ipad. I didn't setup separate accounts for each kid just so they could play templer run on my ipad.

My parents let my kids play with their ipad when they go to visit. They don't have separate accounts.

My brother's 4 year old daughter plays with his ipad all the time. He didn't set up a separate account for her.

My neighbors 2 daughters just use their families ipad on their mom's account.

My wife's friend with a 10 year old autistic daughter has an ipad she exlusively uses ... it's "her ipad". Even that is not on family sharing. She doesn't have her own account. They just use the mom's account.

Your assertion that a rational person would just use family sharing is ridiculous. Nobody does that. Not until the kids are old enough to have their own phones or something... and even then if the kids get an android then they still don't need their own icloud account to use the family ipad.

Comment Re:universal clipboard wtf (Score 1) 200

Not giving kids their own account on the parents machine is the dumbest thing I ever heared.


Setting up an account for my little brothers (my father married again and I have two brothers 40 years younger than me) is less than a minute work.

Less than a minutes work. For you. After you thought about it.

Most people don't give a second thought to this shit. So the system needs to cope with how people actually use stuff. A solution that only /. user would think of is not a solution at all.

How many parents hand their kids their phones and ipads to play games on? Pretty much all of them. All the time. That's the world we live in. So manufacturers that want to make consumer friendly shit need to consider how consumers actually are going to use the stuff.

And: the kids can not destroy your computer with a single mouse click or download software/music/video that bancrupts you ... sorry: you are an idiot!

This isn't about me specifically. And yeah, the average kitchen computer or living room laptop is a disaster area. That's reality. In my case, I maintain separate equipment for important work, but not everyone has 20+ computers in there house. My parents for example have an iphone, and ipad, and a mac mini. And when the kids come over they're allowed to play games on the ipad. (But no they don't create a separate apple id for when the grandkids come to visit; and they don't obsessively sign in and out of icloud.) That's just normal people using ipads the way normal people use ipads: couch toys.

Comment Even bad its good (Score 4, Insightful) 86

Compared to the plasmas, rear projection screens, and even good old fasioned CRTs over the last dozen years the new LED units are positively energy sippers.

Even so, update the tests and fix the stickers; consumers should know what they are buying.

Although I do take exception to the idea that the auto dimming during the test is 'unrealistic' -- yeah its true there isn't a minute of blackness during the average superbowl. But I can't tell you how often a movie has ended, or someone walked away from the HTPC, or something and its gone to sleep. Some of the devices go idle/sleep/off the TV basically shuts the screen off. Others it goes to this blue no-signal screen which it doesn't seem to detect as idle, and will sit there glowing blue nothing for hours... so yeah... testing what the screen does when its not being used SHOULD be part of the testing.

Comment Re:It uses the Handoff framework (Score 1) 200

Which is another way of saying "damn, I've received a response explaining the technology and it doesn't work at all like I thought

Pretty much yes.

but this is the internet and I refuse to be wrong about anything

I'm happy to wrong, and I was way off initially in how it worked. Its a lot less bad than I feared.

This isn't about a stubborn refusal to be 'wrong'. This is simply a remaining issue.

so I'll complain about imaginary edge cases that haven't happened and are so fringe

Because two different people living in the same house in different rooms using devices that are on the same wifi and icloud account is an imaginary edge case? Really? Everyone i know with apple devices does this all the time.

Even comp.risks hasn't bothered with it? Are you sure?

The clipboard is already the source of all kinds of leaks on a shared computer. Have you ever sat down at a public computer and hit "Ctrl-V" sometimes you get something the previous user didn't intend to leave behind for you to find. So, yeah, its not even a new problem, because almost nobody thinks about the clipboard; its invisible.

As for wider recognition of clipboard mobility issues; its already well recognized that there are security risks with the clipboard and remote desktop type solutions with clipboard sharing. (Where malware on the remote access client can both potentially scrape sensitive information from the server's clipboard, or harm the server by injecting malicious content into clipboard (e.g. you copy a bash script to the clipboard, the malware recognizes a bash script has been copied and add's script steps to do something else so that when you paste it on the server the malware's script gets run. This is all old hat. Plenty of ink has been spilled about clipboard sharing on remote desktop services / citrix; and desktop virtual machines (desktop hyperV, VirtualBox, etc) and using it to get out to the host machine.

Universal clipboard opens these same sorts of cans of worms between handoff units. An infected ipad your grandkids use could now potentially scrape all your passwords out of the clipboard as you copy and paste them on your main computer that you much more careful with.

Not to mention simply inadvertent unwanted disclosures between users. Whether its porn ending up handed off to the kids on the ipad; or some draft communication to your lawyer ending up getting dumped on the kitchen mac-mini. Or whatever.

So I still argue that you should have to take an affirmative action to activate handing off the clipboard.

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