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Comment Re:This is Spec work...read, UNETHICAL (Score 1) 587

So you're saying design is a commodity and people go to school for it for fun, not for the money. I laid down $80,000 for four years of college so I could not make money doing this, huh? Yeah, you should enjoy what you do, but you should also be able to earn a living doing it. And let's be careful who we call a "designer"; most people who call themselves "designers" nowadays have no design training or knowledge of layout, color theory, type, and they happen to have pirated copies of Photoshop or Dreamweaver. And I assure you if he were to "BOSS AROUND" a design agency, the design agency would fire HIM as a client (yes, that is done in the design world folks). The designer/client relationship is two ways. If the client doesn't seem to be a good fit for the agency, they will dismiss them and move on to their other clients. And as far as getting one point of view, it is better to get one WELL INFORMED point of view (this is where the designer/client relationship comes in) than hundreds of average views until he gets "something he likes."

Thing is, they specify that you can get a laptop valued "UP TO" $4500. So who says it isn't a cheap $700 Dell? And the fact that there are lots of these contests is a major problem, that doesn't make it a good thing at all and this is precisely why . If a designer wants to challenge him/herself, they should participate in pro-bono/charity work or AIGA approved design contests, or submit existing designs into commercial design annuals. It seems whenever someone can't afford to have the work professionally done, they outsource it as a "contest." And what happens to the rights of those who win, or those who don't win for that matter? Do they retain them, or do they solely belong to the contest holder? All the work that the designers do on spec, they potentially forfeit the chance to showcase this work in a portfolio.

This is starting to pick up a bit of steam in the design world.

http://bw.watchtan.com/article/217/finding-the-con -in-contests
http://www.andyrutledge.com/slashdot-hates-designe rs.php

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