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Comment Re:not true. (Score 1) 164

The question was absurd...if Iran which doesnt have a nuke and has not started a war in centuries launched a nuclear attack, something no country has ever done besides the US onto Israel...a country it has never militarily fought before what would the US do?

It was absurd, but it painted the picture Clinton wanted and let her come off as a tough guy against those 'muslims' during the election.

The US has overthrown an Iranian government, bombed oil rigs, boats, a civilian airliner, supported terrorists attacks in Iran, committed assasinations, and committed an endless string of crimes that would justify the Iranians to attack us...but they don't cause you know thats what the US wants. They want the excuse to bomb and go to war with Iran.

We are the bully of the world and I'm too old and have seen this bs too many times to believe that Iran is the bad guy in this...as if Iran is threatening the USA. bull.

Comment Re:not true. (Score 1) 164

Hillary Clinton was quoted as saying she would 'oblierate Iran if they ever attacked Israel.

John McCain sang a song about 'bomb, bomb, bomb Iran'

The US and Israel are what they claim to fight against.

Comment Re:Iran never called for Israel's destruction (Score 1) 164

The Shah did business with Israel as he was really a Western leader...but Iran did not reconize Israel officially. Israel was/is disliked for what it is...an European colony.

The Jewish population in Iran was massive and goes back centuries. Although tens of thousands have left there are still 30-50K Iranian Jews.
 

Comment Propaganda on Slashdot (Score 1) 164

The Iranian leader called for the 'end of the Zionist regime' which was turned into the destruction of the Jewish state...cause that plays into the "Israel is hated cause of the Arabs are antiSemities bs that is pushed in the US.

The reality is Zionism is rightfully despised by 95% of the world because its is a racist idealogy..."lets setup a state for our ethno/religious group by pushing out the indigenous people of the area because in an imaginary man says it belongs to us" Das racist.

Comment Slashdot propaganda (Score 1) 178

What a shameful piece of propaganda by slashdot...suggesting that Israels brutal occupation is somehow how a matter of perspective of camera angles? wtf?

Some facts...according to the respected human rights organization B'Tselem, exactly 753 Israeli civilians and 342 military personnel were been killed by Palestinians between September 2000 and September 2011. During that same period, the Israeli army killed6,487 Palestinians, at least half of whom were civilians. During Operation Cast Lead â" Israel's most recent illegal assault on the people of Gaza â" the Israeli military killed 1,397 Palestinians, mostly civilians. Three Israeli civilians were killed in the operation.

Clearly this is not a war between two equal parties. This is a vicious occupation against an oppressed and impoverished people, carried out by a powerful, nuclear armed state (Israel), and backed by the world's strongest military power (the U.S.). Shame on slashdot for being apologist for Israel. Shame.

mondoweiss.net

Comment BDS isn't a unix varient (Score 1) 609

In 2006, the Palstenian civil society called for supporters of their cause to boycott, divest and sanction Israel whom is denying rights to over 4 million people who live in Israel based on thier religion.

Had the Palestenians not pulled the funding they would have been breaking their own boycott.

Comment Re:Fail (Score 1) 350

There is so much hasbra there...including the US supports Israel because of Christian Zionists line...no the US supports Israel because of the Israel lobby...don't believe me...read the diary of the first Defense Secâ(TM)y from 60 years ago.

4 September 1947 Cabinet Lunch
At the end of the lunch [Robert] Hannegan [Postmaster General] brought up the question of the Presidentâ(TM)s making a statement of policy on Palestine, particularly with reference to the entrance of a hundred and fifty thousand Jews into Palestine. He said he didnâ(TM)t want to press for a decision one way or the other but simply wanted to point out that such a statement would have a very great influence and great effect on the raising of funds for the Democratic National Committee. He said very large sums were obtained a year ago from Jewish contributors and that they would be influenced in either giving or withholding by what the President did on Palestine.
29 September 1947 [Conversation with president]
I asked the President whether it would not be possible to lift the Jewish-Palestine question out of politics. The President said it was worth trying although he obviously was skeptical.. [I said] It was dangerous to let it continue to be a matter of barter between the two partiesâ¦
6 October 1947 Cabinet Lunch
Hannegan brought up the question of Palestine. He said many people who had contributed to the Democratic campaign fund in 1944 were pressing hard for assurances from the administration of definitive support for the Jewish position in Palestine. The President said that if they would keep quiet he thought that everything would be all right, but that if they persisted in the endeavor to go beyond the report of the United Nations Commission there was grave danger of wrecking all prospects for settlement.
7 November 1947 Cabinet
[Middle East is a tinder box, warns Secretary of State George Marshall] I repeated my suggestion, made several times previously, that a serious attempt be made to lift the Palestine question out of American partisan politics. I said that there had been general acceptance of the fact that domestic politics ceased at the Atlantic Ocean and that no question was more charged with danger to our security than this particular one.

http://mondoweiss.net/2010/07/60-years-ago-first-defense-secy-said-zionist-pressure-endangered-us-security-all-the-way-to-afghanistan.html

Comment Re:Fail (Score 1) 350

In Israel it is now illegal to commerate the Nakba...that is the day when Palestenians remember the villlages destoryed, etc.

http://www.jta.org/news/article/2011/03/23/3086536/knesset-passes-nakba-law

It is also illegal to support the worldwide BDS movement that attempts to call attention to Israels occupation.

You would have to be in coma for the last 44 years or be reading just US media to believe that Israel is a place where freedom and democracy reside.

mondoweiss.net

Comment Re:Fail (Score 1) 350

During the Israels 1967 war...where Israel pre-emptively attacked their neighbors...the US gave them military intellegence support. RFK who was outspoken in favor of Israel was assasinated for this very reason.

Support for Israel due to a domestic lobby has been around since their founding. The book the Israel lobby details it all in depressing detail. You should read it.

Comment Re:about "Third Palestinian Intifada" (Score 2) 350

Its not about clean hands...its about who has the aparthied state.

Recall Israel conquered its Greater Israel in 1967 and almost immediately began moving its civilians onto the conquered lands into exclusive Jewish âoesettlementsâ, showing its clear intent to permanently include so-called Judea and Samaria into Greater Israel. It did so in direct contravention of the Fourth Geneva Convention which prohibits such population transfers as well as territorial annexations by an occupying power. It did so in full knowledge of the illegality of such steps as demonstrated by the famous Judge Meron secret legal memorandum.

Why donâ(TM)t we all just cut to the chase and apply Occamâ(TM)s razor to trim as much non-reality as possible from our arguments. Here are my first proposed two Occam-like issue statement simplifications to be used to better frame our arguments:

1. Is it possible to modify the current single apartheid state of Greater Israel such that the former Palestinian possessors/owners could gain either a separate state of their own, or a modicum of basic and essential human rights that would allow them to share equally in the benefits of Greater Israel?

2. Are Jews entitled to an apartheid state of their own to protect them from perceived future dangers of anti-Semitism, or do past crimes against Jews provide sufficient justification alone for a Jewish apartheid state?

3. If Jews are entitled under international law to an apartheid state of their own for either or both of the above reasons, shall this be a generally applicable international legal precedent for oppressed peoples or is it exclusive only to peoples specifically chosen, such as Jews?

The clear reality is this: a single, apartheid state of Greater Israel has existed since 1967, now 44 years. 10 percent of Israeli Jews now inhabit 40 percent of the West Bank and East Jerusalem and have asserted total oppressive control over the lives of the remaining Palestinians who live there. The numbers of illegal settlers and settlements grow rapidly with no end in sight. Ethnic cleansing and violence toward Palestinians, with the protection and enablement of the Israeli government and military continues and expands in parallel. Arguments need to be framed around that existing reality, not hypothetical future outcomes

This is what the Palestenians are fighting over, not hating Israel or some other made for American consumption POV.

Comment Re:the video claims Israeli involvement (Score 1) 334

They wouldnt drop it on Israel because unlike Israel, Iran has not in recent history attacked its neighbors. Unlike Israel, Iran is not expanding its territory. For goodness sakes, dont just believe what the government/media say...think for yourselves...what would Iran gain but killing millions of people...nothing.

Iranians do not want to destory Israel or kill Jewish people...that is creation of war mongers in Israel/US. The Iranians want to see an end to the problem of the 4 million refugees that were created because of Israel...there is clear international law that refugees have a right to return to the land they come from...however Israel is not a regular democracy...its a democracy with a forced Jewish majority..so they refuse to allow the people who were forced from their homes to return. So Iranians and many other people want to see an end to this special type of democracy...to Zionism as it keeping 4 million Palestenians from having justice.

mondoweiss dot net

Comment Re:Cyber terrorisim (Score 1) 334

How can Israel always be the victim?

The form a nation by terrorism(david hotel)...destroy villages (1948) , create refugees, conspire with the colonial powers to attack Egypt (1956), commit terrorist attacks in Egypt (lavon affair), pre-emptively attacks its neighbors (1967), invade Lebannon (1982), annex Jersusalem, move 500K citizens into areas outside their borders (see 80 UN resolutions) , bomb Lebanon (2006), bomb gaza (2008) and on and on...

yet some how its just poor Israel being picked on? groan...50 years from now people will look back in amazement that this little medeterrain nation was so rouge for so long...

Comment Re:Cyber terrorisim (Score 1) 334

oh get off it. The IAEA found that Iran was developing a nuke weapons...same old story as Iraq...the US then stamps its feet and calls into question the inspectors...

but lets play along, even if Iran were...developing weapons is NOT a justified cause for war.

Heck Israel has nuclear weapons themselves...who are they to say that Iran shouldnt develop them.

The US is occupying countries to the East and West of Iran...has thousands of nuclear weapons and is the only country to ever use...annilating nearly 150K+ civilians instantly...

but yes tell me again, how do we have the moral high ground to claim that Iran cant have them? How?

Come on. Be serious.

Comment Re:Everything you need to know (Score 1) 334

Lets have some citations?

no?

Lets stop with this the Arabs want to destroy poor innocent Israel bs.

Hizbolla exists for one reason...because Israel invaded and occupied Lebanon.

Likewise Iran has never attacked or been at war with Israel.

People in the region and the world for that matter rightfully do want to get rid of Zionism. An idealogy that by any definition is racist.

You know the.... 'my imaginary friend gave me this land thousands of years ago and now I am going bulldoze your village so that my people can live here'

The way you talk about the region...as if they were inferior (wild, wild west) they arent saints...makes me think you were a soldiger when you were there.

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