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Comment Re:not true. (Score 1) 164

The question was absurd...if Iran which doesnt have a nuke and has not started a war in centuries launched a nuclear attack, something no country has ever done besides the US onto Israel...a country it has never militarily fought before what would the US do?

It was absurd, but it painted the picture Clinton wanted and let her come off as a tough guy against those 'muslims' during the election.

The US has overthrown an Iranian government, bombed oil rigs, boats, a civilian airliner, supported terrorists attacks in Iran, committed assasinations, and committed an endless string of crimes that would justify the Iranians to attack us...but they don't cause you know thats what the US wants. They want the excuse to bomb and go to war with Iran.

We are the bully of the world and I'm too old and have seen this bs too many times to believe that Iran is the bad guy in this...as if Iran is threatening the USA. bull.

Comment Re:not true. (Score 1) 164

Hillary Clinton was quoted as saying she would 'oblierate Iran if they ever attacked Israel.

John McCain sang a song about 'bomb, bomb, bomb Iran'

The US and Israel are what they claim to fight against.

Comment Re:Iran never called for Israel's destruction (Score 1) 164

The Shah did business with Israel as he was really a Western leader...but Iran did not reconize Israel officially. Israel was/is disliked for what it is...an European colony.

The Jewish population in Iran was massive and goes back centuries. Although tens of thousands have left there are still 30-50K Iranian Jews.

Comment Propaganda on Slashdot (Score 1) 164

The Iranian leader called for the 'end of the Zionist regime' which was turned into the destruction of the Jewish state...cause that plays into the "Israel is hated cause of the Arabs are antiSemities bs that is pushed in the US.

The reality is Zionism is rightfully despised by 95% of the world because its is a racist idealogy..."lets setup a state for our ethno/religious group by pushing out the indigenous people of the area because in an imaginary man says it belongs to us" Das racist.

Comment Slashdot propaganda (Score 1) 178

What a shameful piece of propaganda by slashdot...suggesting that Israels brutal occupation is somehow how a matter of perspective of camera angles? wtf?

Some facts...according to the respected human rights organization B'Tselem, exactly 753 Israeli civilians and 342 military personnel were been killed by Palestinians between September 2000 and September 2011. During that same period, the Israeli army killed6,487 Palestinians, at least half of whom were civilians. During Operation Cast Lead â" Israel's most recent illegal assault on the people of Gaza â" the Israeli military killed 1,397 Palestinians, mostly civilians. Three Israeli civilians were killed in the operation.

Clearly this is not a war between two equal parties. This is a vicious occupation against an oppressed and impoverished people, carried out by a powerful, nuclear armed state (Israel), and backed by the world's strongest military power (the U.S.). Shame on slashdot for being apologist for Israel. Shame.


Submission + - Hacker group 'Anonymous' prepares DDOS attack on t (mondoweiss.net) 1

Smiths writes: The latest target of Operation Anonymous, which following the dissolution of LulzSec is the last substantial non-amorphous hacker collective left out there, could lead to some substantial geopolitical fallout. That is because the target of the just announced upcoming DDOS attack is none other than the Israeli Parliament, the Knesset, and while Israel has allegedly been happy to dispense hack attacks in the past, the onslaught on the Iranian nuclear power plant courtesy of the Stuxnet virus coming to mind, we doubt it will as happy to be seen on the receiving end of decentralized computer warfare.

Submission + - Israeli Video Blog Exposed as a Hoax (nytimes.com)

Smiths writes: A YouTube video featuring a man who presented himself as an American gay rights activist disillusioned with the latest Gaza flotilla campaign has been exposed as a hoax.

The man in the video, who introduced himself to viewers as Marc and claimed that the organizers of the latest flotilla of ships bound for Gaza had rejected his offer to mobilize a network of gay activists in support of their cause, was identified as Omer Gershon, a Tel Aviv actor involved in marketing, by the Electronic Intifada, a pro-Palestinian Web site.


Submission + - Israel seeks to ban Palestinian protest from Apple (mondoweiss.net)

Smiths writes: Yesterday Israel's "Public Diplomacy Minister" wrote a letter to Steve Jobs demanding that an application "Third Intifada" be removed from the app store.

Reuters reports:

The application offers users a stream of news stories and editorials in Arabic, announces upcoming protests, and includes links to nationalistic Palestinian videos and songs.

Reuters quotes Minister Yuli-Yoel Edelstein (a settler/squatter in Neve Daniel):

I am convinced that you are aware of this type of application's ability to unite many toward an objective that could be disastrous....

Companies like this that have a global reach also have a responsibility, and they are aware of this responsibility, and I am sure that Apple will act in the same way (as Facebook)

Apparently the Israelis are not content choking the breath out of Palestinians in Israel, the West Bank and Gaza. Now the Israeli government believe that it's their right to muzzle the entire world.

There's a good chance Apple will roll over, as did Facebook in May. Martin Niemöller's famous words take on a new sinister slant:

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Arab springtime is welcomed in Syria and Libya but not in Israel. Some animals are more equal than others. Israel's determination to follow South Africa's apartheid trail seems relentless.

Submission + - SPAM: Netanyahu: Israel needs to be at forefront of cybe

Smiths writes: PM warns "more computerized we get, more vulnerable we become," stresses importance of R&D in defense, industry-business, academic sectors; comments come after new security study says cybernetics arms race has begun.
Israel should be a global cyber-power, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said on Thursday during a conference on cyber warfare at Tel Aviv University.

The premier said Israel must be a significant player in the new cyber warfare arena, adding that "we are preparing ourselves" in line with that aim, Channel 10 reported.

"Although the field is not precise... we must enter it... and become a world cyber-power. This is possible. We're no longer crawling, we're walking, and soon, we will be running forward," Netanyahu added.

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Comment BDS isn't a unix varient (Score 1) 609

In 2006, the Palstenian civil society called for supporters of their cause to boycott, divest and sanction Israel whom is denying rights to over 4 million people who live in Israel based on thier religion.

Had the Palestenians not pulled the funding they would have been breaking their own boycott.

Comment Re:Fail (Score 1) 350

There is so much hasbra there...including the US supports Israel because of Christian Zionists line...no the US supports Israel because of the Israel lobby...don't believe me...read the diary of the first Defense Secâ(TM)y from 60 years ago.

4 September 1947 Cabinet Lunch
At the end of the lunch [Robert] Hannegan [Postmaster General] brought up the question of the Presidentâ(TM)s making a statement of policy on Palestine, particularly with reference to the entrance of a hundred and fifty thousand Jews into Palestine. He said he didnâ(TM)t want to press for a decision one way or the other but simply wanted to point out that such a statement would have a very great influence and great effect on the raising of funds for the Democratic National Committee. He said very large sums were obtained a year ago from Jewish contributors and that they would be influenced in either giving or withholding by what the President did on Palestine.
29 September 1947 [Conversation with president]
I asked the President whether it would not be possible to lift the Jewish-Palestine question out of politics. The President said it was worth trying although he obviously was skeptical.. [I said] It was dangerous to let it continue to be a matter of barter between the two partiesâ¦
6 October 1947 Cabinet Lunch
Hannegan brought up the question of Palestine. He said many people who had contributed to the Democratic campaign fund in 1944 were pressing hard for assurances from the administration of definitive support for the Jewish position in Palestine. The President said that if they would keep quiet he thought that everything would be all right, but that if they persisted in the endeavor to go beyond the report of the United Nations Commission there was grave danger of wrecking all prospects for settlement.
7 November 1947 Cabinet
[Middle East is a tinder box, warns Secretary of State George Marshall] I repeated my suggestion, made several times previously, that a serious attempt be made to lift the Palestine question out of American partisan politics. I said that there had been general acceptance of the fact that domestic politics ceased at the Atlantic Ocean and that no question was more charged with danger to our security than this particular one.


Comment Re:Fail (Score 1) 350

In Israel it is now illegal to commerate the Nakba...that is the day when Palestenians remember the villlages destoryed, etc.


It is also illegal to support the worldwide BDS movement that attempts to call attention to Israels occupation.

You would have to be in coma for the last 44 years or be reading just US media to believe that Israel is a place where freedom and democracy reside.


Comment Re:Fail (Score 1) 350

During the Israels 1967 war...where Israel pre-emptively attacked their neighbors...the US gave them military intellegence support. RFK who was outspoken in favor of Israel was assasinated for this very reason.

Support for Israel due to a domestic lobby has been around since their founding. The book the Israel lobby details it all in depressing detail. You should read it.

Comment Re:about "Third Palestinian Intifada" (Score 2) 350

Its not about clean hands...its about who has the aparthied state.

Recall Israel conquered its Greater Israel in 1967 and almost immediately began moving its civilians onto the conquered lands into exclusive Jewish âoesettlementsâ, showing its clear intent to permanently include so-called Judea and Samaria into Greater Israel. It did so in direct contravention of the Fourth Geneva Convention which prohibits such population transfers as well as territorial annexations by an occupying power. It did so in full knowledge of the illegality of such steps as demonstrated by the famous Judge Meron secret legal memorandum.

Why donâ(TM)t we all just cut to the chase and apply Occamâ(TM)s razor to trim as much non-reality as possible from our arguments. Here are my first proposed two Occam-like issue statement simplifications to be used to better frame our arguments:

1. Is it possible to modify the current single apartheid state of Greater Israel such that the former Palestinian possessors/owners could gain either a separate state of their own, or a modicum of basic and essential human rights that would allow them to share equally in the benefits of Greater Israel?

2. Are Jews entitled to an apartheid state of their own to protect them from perceived future dangers of anti-Semitism, or do past crimes against Jews provide sufficient justification alone for a Jewish apartheid state?

3. If Jews are entitled under international law to an apartheid state of their own for either or both of the above reasons, shall this be a generally applicable international legal precedent for oppressed peoples or is it exclusive only to peoples specifically chosen, such as Jews?

The clear reality is this: a single, apartheid state of Greater Israel has existed since 1967, now 44 years. 10 percent of Israeli Jews now inhabit 40 percent of the West Bank and East Jerusalem and have asserted total oppressive control over the lives of the remaining Palestinians who live there. The numbers of illegal settlers and settlements grow rapidly with no end in sight. Ethnic cleansing and violence toward Palestinians, with the protection and enablement of the Israeli government and military continues and expands in parallel. Arguments need to be framed around that existing reality, not hypothetical future outcomes

This is what the Palestenians are fighting over, not hating Israel or some other made for American consumption POV.

Comment Re:the video claims Israeli involvement (Score 1) 334

They wouldnt drop it on Israel because unlike Israel, Iran has not in recent history attacked its neighbors. Unlike Israel, Iran is not expanding its territory. For goodness sakes, dont just believe what the government/media say...think for yourselves...what would Iran gain but killing millions of people...nothing.

Iranians do not want to destory Israel or kill Jewish people...that is creation of war mongers in Israel/US. The Iranians want to see an end to the problem of the 4 million refugees that were created because of Israel...there is clear international law that refugees have a right to return to the land they come from...however Israel is not a regular democracy...its a democracy with a forced Jewish majority..so they refuse to allow the people who were forced from their homes to return. So Iranians and many other people want to see an end to this special type of democracy...to Zionism as it keeping 4 million Palestenians from having justice.

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