The three groups are Utlanning, Framling and Ramen?
Oh, my. How do you not understand just how critical presumed innocence is. Your examples miss the point entirely.
Cops presume innocence until presented with probable cause. Without presumption of innocence, search and seizure would be effectively unlimited.
Bail is set by judges after weighing the evidence presented preliminarily. Without presumption of innocence, why should there be bail at all?
OJ may very well be a murderer, but he is innocent. Considering him--or any other person acquitted of a crime--to be "guilty" just because you think so, is a shameful miscarriage of justice, much less decency.
Florida's prosecutors are floating a proposal to the Legislature to give them the power to secretly falsify public court records -- with a judge's approval -- for undercover law enforcement purposes.
Spurred by Miami-Dade State Attorney Katherine Fernández Rundle, the draft bill would limit the authority to manufacture and plant fake documents in court files to 180 days.
Now please name a few cases from history where a compromise could not be reached and where terrorism was then stopped by all out warfare.
The revolutionary war (the terrorists (e.g. Boston Tea Party) won)
The Spanish-American war (how many ships have been sunk by Spain lately?)
World War I ("terrorism" writ large was stopped)
World War II (see WWI)
Sorry, but war is still sometimes necessary for the redress of evil. Evil it is, but necessary all the same.
Philosophy: A route of many roads leading from nowhere to nothing. -- Ambrose Bierce
