Comment Re:Since when, exactly? (Score 2) 159
Sorry, you are simply plain wrong. There is nothing to "confuse" or "disentangle" here.
We are discussing an article stating that 2024 was the warmest year "since records began".
Somebody asks what "since records began" means in this context. This question is valid and pertinent. It also has just a single correct answer, and it has nothing to do with isotopes, ice ages or whatever happened in 1736 in Mannheim, Germany.
The answer, as I pointed out and linked to, is found expressly in the original press release of the organization which published this finding. As stated, the answer is: "Since records began" in this context means 1979-2024. Every other answer is factually incorrect.
Unfortunately, as is always the case with Internet discussions like these, the crowd which claims to have the facts and urges people to "follow the science" instead starts a debate which contains 0% facts and 100% ad hominem attacks.
None of this has anything to do, BTW, with the question of whether anybody involved in this debate thinks that climate change and its human-made causes are real and/or what could be done to combat it. We could be having a factual debate about the actually available underlying data - instead we once again see people either simply screeching "denier" or countering with largely fact-free arrogance.
Contrary to what people seem to think, this style of discussion does not contribute anything to the issue at hand, and it certainly does nothing to convince people who are actually in doubt or outright deniers. Rather, it is fuel to the fire for those who think that all climate science is made up and everybody can just claim whatever they want.
Tragic, really.