Comment Re: Whatever... (Score 1) 107
It seems that you win this battle on the grounds on interpretation of the facts. Yes I did make some errors, however you believe too much of what you read in the media in our beloved US. I'd urge you to read non-bias sources (or as close as you can get to them). Just because some guy with a Pakistani or Indian sounding name says that Pakistan is breaching the line doesn't mean its _just_ Pakistan. I found it amusing that you chose not to address the problems of why Pakistan was created in the first place. Then when you say that the Maharaja signed to become a part of India, you totally miss the point. The Maharaja had close ties to India from the beginning, why wouldn't he side with India? He was a dictator ruling over people that didn't want his rule. Another point you miss about Kashmir is that the people their don't want India ruling them. THEY WANT FREEDOM. Yet the world tells them to sit down and shut up.
Let me apply this situation to our own situation in the 1700s. What if France hadn't helped us against Britian? We would probably have lot the war and still be British citizens. Now the Kashmiris are fighting the Indian army. They are out gunned, out manned, out trained. They asked Pakistan for help. Just like we asked France for help against Britian. How would you feel today if France had sanctions put against it by Spain? You'd think it was absurd because people should have the right to choose their own destiny and if a large enough population wants freedom, then they should get it. Am I wrong here? If you say yes, then you are a hypocrite and don't deserve to live in the US. If you say no, then your arguments are irrelavent. Your choice.
I'd like to see how much of what the Indian muslims want their government to do gets done. India is democratic only if your Hindu. Much like the US during the Civil Rights years. Blacks had the right to vote, but if they did, KKK type groups would come and get them. Or there were so many obsticles (like the Poll tax) that the poor Blacks couldn't vote. Please, I'd ask you to tour India and PROVE me wrong. Muslims are second class citizens in India too worried about how they'll find their next meal, India doesn't have much to worry about. Latly, if India is so open to religions, then why is the government funding a campaign to drive out catholics? Please explain. We have see reports about 6 churches being destoryed and christians being persecuted, please explain why India is doing this? I thought they were a democratic state?
About the PR, you are very wrong here. We see the Indian point of view in the news here. I don't care if they set up an office in DC and lobby from their, all they need to do is make some ridiculous claims on their national news, and our media jumps at every attempt to defame Pakistan. Tell me, why aren't CNN and CNBC reporting the human rights abuses that some of the biggest HR organization in the world are complaining about? Is HR just a thing our country adds on to sway the public when another country is disliked like China? Please explain.
I disgree with your statements on the Muslims of East Pakistan being abused by West Pakistan. It sounds like more FUD to me. Please provide reliable un-biased sources. I'd like to see them. You want my sources, I can give you a phone book of East Pakistan, you can call whoever you please.
SAARC... that's a whole 'nother article.
BTW, about the third-world banding together, I think it'll happen sooner than your prediction. I give our beloved US another 5 decades at most if our current foreign policy strategy continues. All it'll take is a little push from the Euro, the EU getting stronger in trade and FP, and us pissing off another country or two sitting on the security council.
Cheers...
Let me apply this situation to our own situation in the 1700s. What if France hadn't helped us against Britian? We would probably have lot the war and still be British citizens. Now the Kashmiris are fighting the Indian army. They are out gunned, out manned, out trained. They asked Pakistan for help. Just like we asked France for help against Britian. How would you feel today if France had sanctions put against it by Spain? You'd think it was absurd because people should have the right to choose their own destiny and if a large enough population wants freedom, then they should get it. Am I wrong here? If you say yes, then you are a hypocrite and don't deserve to live in the US. If you say no, then your arguments are irrelavent. Your choice.
I'd like to see how much of what the Indian muslims want their government to do gets done. India is democratic only if your Hindu. Much like the US during the Civil Rights years. Blacks had the right to vote, but if they did, KKK type groups would come and get them. Or there were so many obsticles (like the Poll tax) that the poor Blacks couldn't vote. Please, I'd ask you to tour India and PROVE me wrong. Muslims are second class citizens in India too worried about how they'll find their next meal, India doesn't have much to worry about. Latly, if India is so open to religions, then why is the government funding a campaign to drive out catholics? Please explain. We have see reports about 6 churches being destoryed and christians being persecuted, please explain why India is doing this? I thought they were a democratic state?
About the PR, you are very wrong here. We see the Indian point of view in the news here. I don't care if they set up an office in DC and lobby from their, all they need to do is make some ridiculous claims on their national news, and our media jumps at every attempt to defame Pakistan. Tell me, why aren't CNN and CNBC reporting the human rights abuses that some of the biggest HR organization in the world are complaining about? Is HR just a thing our country adds on to sway the public when another country is disliked like China? Please explain.
I disgree with your statements on the Muslims of East Pakistan being abused by West Pakistan. It sounds like more FUD to me. Please provide reliable un-biased sources. I'd like to see them. You want my sources, I can give you a phone book of East Pakistan, you can call whoever you please.
SAARC... that's a whole 'nother article.
BTW, about the third-world banding together, I think it'll happen sooner than your prediction. I give our beloved US another 5 decades at most if our current foreign policy strategy continues. All it'll take is a little push from the Euro, the EU getting stronger in trade and FP, and us pissing off another country or two sitting on the security council.
Cheers...
