Comment Sun come back please! You are in DANGER! (Score 1, Offtopic) 216
I read this. What a joke. Before I am considered inflammatory, I'd like to say I like Sun, and only hope the best of them.
Sun is deep shit. For example, the successful integration of GNU, particularly GNOME into Solaris is imperative - yet they fail to do this continually, with any measure of aptitude or efficacy.
I run both Solaris SPARC and X86. I am appalled at how this has turned out. I used to run SunOS 4.1.4, and now I've been through Solaris from 2.6 to now.
On top of this all is Java, whose IDEs are severely lacking. I see more Java crap out there. In fact, I work with Java now. It's such a kluge, so close, yet they missed the mark, badly. I can't explain it. I don't see why the OO programmers ever liked this stuff. Its confusing bloated, and the abstraction makes the developers dumber and dumber every day. They wave this GARBAGE COLLECTION flag all over, and they have ceased to understand what garbage collection even is.
We have this one guy who doesn't use an IDE when using Java swing. The windowing he created is useless. It's inconsistent as hell, and it takes him forever to implement anything. I'm not a big fan of this stuff. I don't understand if he a bad programmer or not, but I though the point of this OO stuff was to recycle classes and reduce work, but it seems only to create it.
Back to Sun. SPARC is so far behind at this point, they need to do some serious work. We benched out some Alphas, SPARCs, AMDs and Intel's here, and let me tell you, the price performance for Sun is a joke. It's laughably horrible. This Opteron will make Sun's life very difficult.
I once found a show stopper bug in Solaris, and I couldn't figure out how to call them to report it. I remember when the Cobalt support was free, it is no longer.
Sun is full of dead wood. I know several alumni and a few people still work there, these are my friends, I live in the Valley. We all think Sun is screwing up so bad.
Only time will tell. I hope Sun lives. They have a tact for doing things well, or t least they did. At this point, as the stock points out, the future looks grim. They have a huge opportunity to trail blaze now that Compaq and HP will be floundering around, Opteron isn't out yet, IBM is having some problems delivering, and Dell isn't quite there just yet, almost.
I will bet they will squander this opportunity. They will let Dell catch up, and supercede, as dell already has in the 1U department. They will let IBM finish Linux and start being the ones that define Java. They will let HP and Compaq figure out how to not go out of business. They have no good leadership.
I think its high time Solaris be thought of as a Kernel, and GNU needs to start pouring in. Solaris x86 needs to come back. Suns forte should be free. Its not worth much to tell you the truth. The compiler frankly sucks. They should write optimizations for GCC. They should bank on GNU. This resistance to and this adherence to this completely ridiculous System V is pathetic.
They also need to start getting the Java community more involved in making Java and stop changing the APIs every 5 minutes.
We tried talking to sun about being a VAR, as we are already a Dell VAR. The sales and marketing people there are pathetic. They know nothing.
I'm still in shock that they have made support for Cobalt suck badly, and that I could never tell them about that show stopping bug I found in Solaris. I know former employees who will tell you this: "I don't know how to file a bug against them when you don't work inside the company, and I worked there."
Sun, wake up. Start making use of that GNUish thing you bought Cobalt, and start acting like you give a shit about the little people. Your disgusting arrogance has pissed everyone in the Valley off. And get a new CEO for Christ's sake. I love McNeely, but he has the WORST case of ADD *ever*. He is good at shitting on MS, but the sad thing is. Microsoft is more in the bank than Sun's whole Market Capitalization. Yes, MSFT has more in the BANK as CASH, than all the shares of SUNQ multiplied by the current price.
Now, if that isn't a sign for Sun to get OFF their high horse and start doing WORK, I don't know what is.
Sun's inability to execute, to be competitive and to be innovative and to be connected INTIMATLY with even its TINY customers will kill it in the end. I know I wouldn't buy SUNW right now.
Sun is deep shit. For example, the successful integration of GNU, particularly GNOME into Solaris is imperative - yet they fail to do this continually, with any measure of aptitude or efficacy.
I run both Solaris SPARC and X86. I am appalled at how this has turned out. I used to run SunOS 4.1.4, and now I've been through Solaris from 2.6 to now.
On top of this all is Java, whose IDEs are severely lacking. I see more Java crap out there. In fact, I work with Java now. It's such a kluge, so close, yet they missed the mark, badly. I can't explain it. I don't see why the OO programmers ever liked this stuff. Its confusing bloated, and the abstraction makes the developers dumber and dumber every day. They wave this GARBAGE COLLECTION flag all over, and they have ceased to understand what garbage collection even is.
We have this one guy who doesn't use an IDE when using Java swing. The windowing he created is useless. It's inconsistent as hell, and it takes him forever to implement anything. I'm not a big fan of this stuff. I don't understand if he a bad programmer or not, but I though the point of this OO stuff was to recycle classes and reduce work, but it seems only to create it.
Back to Sun. SPARC is so far behind at this point, they need to do some serious work. We benched out some Alphas, SPARCs, AMDs and Intel's here, and let me tell you, the price performance for Sun is a joke. It's laughably horrible. This Opteron will make Sun's life very difficult.
I once found a show stopper bug in Solaris, and I couldn't figure out how to call them to report it. I remember when the Cobalt support was free, it is no longer.
Sun is full of dead wood. I know several alumni and a few people still work there, these are my friends, I live in the Valley. We all think Sun is screwing up so bad.
Only time will tell. I hope Sun lives. They have a tact for doing things well, or t least they did. At this point, as the stock points out, the future looks grim. They have a huge opportunity to trail blaze now that Compaq and HP will be floundering around, Opteron isn't out yet, IBM is having some problems delivering, and Dell isn't quite there just yet, almost.
I will bet they will squander this opportunity. They will let Dell catch up, and supercede, as dell already has in the 1U department. They will let IBM finish Linux and start being the ones that define Java. They will let HP and Compaq figure out how to not go out of business. They have no good leadership.
I think its high time Solaris be thought of as a Kernel, and GNU needs to start pouring in. Solaris x86 needs to come back. Suns forte should be free. Its not worth much to tell you the truth. The compiler frankly sucks. They should write optimizations for GCC. They should bank on GNU. This resistance to and this adherence to this completely ridiculous System V is pathetic.
They also need to start getting the Java community more involved in making Java and stop changing the APIs every 5 minutes.
We tried talking to sun about being a VAR, as we are already a Dell VAR. The sales and marketing people there are pathetic. They know nothing.
I'm still in shock that they have made support for Cobalt suck badly, and that I could never tell them about that show stopping bug I found in Solaris. I know former employees who will tell you this: "I don't know how to file a bug against them when you don't work inside the company, and I worked there."
Sun, wake up. Start making use of that GNUish thing you bought Cobalt, and start acting like you give a shit about the little people. Your disgusting arrogance has pissed everyone in the Valley off. And get a new CEO for Christ's sake. I love McNeely, but he has the WORST case of ADD *ever*. He is good at shitting on MS, but the sad thing is. Microsoft is more in the bank than Sun's whole Market Capitalization. Yes, MSFT has more in the BANK as CASH, than all the shares of SUNQ multiplied by the current price.
Now, if that isn't a sign for Sun to get OFF their high horse and start doing WORK, I don't know what is.
Sun's inability to execute, to be competitive and to be innovative and to be connected INTIMATLY with even its TINY customers will kill it in the end. I know I wouldn't buy SUNW right now.
