I have decided I do not understand your frame of reference well enough to give you the answers you are looking for, as I said, I think we need to get on the same page so we can communicate better. I consider myself a truly open minded person and I try not to discount things simply because I do not understand them. This is the reason I watch FoxNews, even though it makes my blood pressure go up. So I am currently reading up on the subject morality, ethics and politics, specificly from the conserative point of view. If you have any websites you think might contribute to my understanding, I will be happy to take a look. Once I have a better understanding of your point of view, I should be able to provide you a better understanding of what it means to be liberal.