The fundamental problem you're dealing with is that there isn't any one place in the world where you could realistically survive as a vegan. Even if you brought in all of the exotic plants necessary to replace all of the essential amino groups, none of them are capable of growing in every part of the world. Furthermore, there isn't any viable plant source of certain other nutrients, including "brain food", like creatine.
You're right, there isn't just ONE PLACE, there are many. It's almost like being globally connected has improved our access to resources. Why do you need to bring in exotic plants? You can get all your essential aminos by eating a variety of readily-available veggies. Do you know people that eat like ... one vegetable on a salad and call it done? No, they eat a handful of different vegetables offering various aminos and micro nutrients. Why do you need a viable source of creatine when your body can just make it? Are you a world-class athlete that needs an extra 5g of creatine before a workout or has nature seen fit to give you the ability to create something it gave all the other animals the ability to create?
That alone is enough to tell you that it isn't sustainable, barring some miraculous technology that is cheap and easy for synthesising what is needed based on readily available materials. Or alternatively, genetic engineering, which vegans tend to strongly oppose on the same ideological grounds that make them vegan to begin with. In fact, currently the most optional way to make use of natural resources (read: sustainability) is definitely not vegan:
Well it's not enough, but assuming it WAS, you don't need some miracle for easy synthesis of stuff like this. Ever tried to buy creatine monohydrate from a GNC? it's like one of the cheapest supplements around you can get.
Also being relatively new to "veganism", what are the ideological grounds to oppose supplements? Creatine for instance is made by combining sarcosine and cyanamide in a reactor. Are vegans against science and somebody just forgot to tell me?!?!
Too bad I can't read the investigation in the article because the link is broken. Do scientific publications change URLs often? Anyways, I was trying to get at the source of the study because a lot of studies that support meat are paid for by people who would profit off said research. I haven't ever seen a commercial along the lines of "Broccoli, it's what's for dinner."
IMO, every vegan should try living in rural Africa for a few years, without bringing any first world resources or money in, and then after that tell everyone just how awesome being a vegan really is.
This is a dumb fucking argument on so many levels. First lemme make the same dumb argument but about something else.
IMO, every techno-file should try living in rural Africa for a few years, without bringing any first world resources or money in, and then after that tell everyone just how awesome technology really is.
It's like when the government says a program isn't going to work, and then does everything they can to undermine it only to say "See?! It was doomed to fail from the start!"
The fact is, everything about our physiology has omnivore written all over it. The author of the piece that declares this to be claptrap just ignores all of that.
Like the fact that eating red meat daily triples heart disease-related chemicals? Or how about the fact that meat and processed food has an inflammatory effect on endothelial function? Maybe it's all those other omnivores our dental makeup takes after (outside of pigs, rhinos and other primates, I don't see a lot of commonality)? Could it be the fact that the diet of our nearest ancestors in the animal kingdom consist mainly of a balanced diet and not mostly plants or anything?
Humans are adaptable animals, there is no doubt. Given human history, it made/makes sense to eat what you can when you can find it. What you seem to fail to realize is that we've gotten to the point where we can rise ABOVE it. Look, everything about our physiology says we weren't designed to wear pants, but we've managed to rise above that so we don't have our dicks waving in the wind.
Some people, even those who have access to a lot of resources, would literally die if they were forced to go vegan, namely those on dialysis, where a vegan diet is basically a long, drawn out suicide.
OK Timmy, point out where the vegan touched you ...
Look, it sounds like you just have a huge bias towards vegans based off this last line. FORCED? Seriously?!?! I want people to eat healthy and do what makes sense for their bodies, but nobody is forcing veganism like you seem to allude to. You think that as a vegan, if somebody needed to subsist on chicken liver for the rest of their life just to survive I'd try to force them off it or chastise them for their "heretical" lifestyle? That's some malarkey, sir. You must be confusing veganism with asshole-ism. While not mutually exclusive, they are definitely not correlated.