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Comment Re:It's "stars" not "suns". (Score 0) 344

Well, apparently "moon" has become generic, but not "sun".
Some people are using "sun" as a non-proper reference to other stars, but that is being corrected by other people, and "moon" is not, since we don't have another easy reference to other satellites out there.

Therefore, the Sun (our star) is correctly being enforced, where other stars are stars or their specific correct name.

I do capitalize the Sun, since the only Sun in the universe is our star. Everything else is a star or a proper new name for it.

Comment Re:Atheism isn't a belief system (Score 0) 907

First off, atheism is not a proper noun, so you don't capitalize it.

Next, atheism isn't a belief system, as was earlier outlined, so it's not reasonable to say that atheists "believe" that a god doesn't exist. That is not accurate. All one needs to be to be an atheist is lack belief in gods. Yes, someone that says "there is no god' also lacks belief, but it's not required to be an atheist.

Agnosticism has to do with knowledge, theism/atheism have to do with beliefs. Thus, agnosticism is merely a modifier added to theism/atheism if people want to, but everyone still needs to be an atheist or a theist at all times.

Comment Re:Not all religions are bad (Score 0) 910

You said: "Atheism is a set of beliefs, that there is no god."
Sorry bro, but I am WELL educated in this area. The prefix a- means without/no, so therefore it means without/no belief in a god.
Thus, it's simply a position where one is without belief in gods. There is no belief or doctrine.
There is a subtle difference between lacking belief in gods and somehow asserting there is no god... however, the difference is real and it's there.
For both of those positions, they are both without belief in gods (atheistic). However, the latter is where someone additionally asserts that there is no god. That is not required to be an atheist.

Please look it up and do your homework.
It doesn't mean "no god". O_o

Again, the word "atheist" and "atheism" are not proper nouns, so you do not capitalize them in some of the contexts of which you've used them.

My protestations against religion have nothing to do with "meanings of atheism". Just because I'm a very reasonable person that sees religion for the evil in which it is, doesn't mean that therefore there must be more meaning to the word "atheism". That's bad logic. Check yourself.

You said: "A true Atheist would be unconcerned about religion, one way or another."
That's about one of the most ignorant lines I've heard in a long, long time.
What the f*ck is a "true atheist", and why would someone who lacks belief in a god not care about the bad that religion does to mankind?
You are an idiot (that's an insult).

Comment Re:Not all religions are bad (Score 0) 910

I have not defined "evil", so how could my "logic fail" there? O_o Think much?
For your benefit, I'll define evil as that which is bad for mankind.

I never said "everyone is good" or anything of the like. I said people are GENERALLY good. Wow, you really interpret stuff as you want to, now don't you? I can see you've never really debated in your life all that much at all - just "argued"..which, I'm guessing, never goes too well for you.

Hitler WAS a Christian; he didn't just CLAIM to be one. Also, the word "atheist" is not a proper noun.

You said: "Would you like us to judge the whole of Atheism on the morals of these avowed Atheists?"
Atheism isn't a set of doctrines or belief system of any kind, so to ask that question is quite ridiculous.
Fail.

You said: "People like you, given enough power turn into people like Lenin and Mao, killing anyone that opposes their particular view of Atheism."
Lenin and Mao didn't kill people because of "atheism". O_o Read much?

Religion is delusional, yes. I'm already saying that. Religion NEEDS to be eradicated, yes. That doesn't equate to PEOPLE needing to be eradicated.
You aren't much of a thinker, as I keep pointing out here, so please, stop saying things which much certainty when you address me, as we obviously know that you're still in a deep learning stage about this topic.

Comment Re:Religion is for the ignorant/gullible (Score 0) 910

Oh I see your mistake. Sorry, but those are descriptive words. They aren't "names" or "insults". Please pay attention to what you read and do your homework before you respond in such an ignorant manner.

I'm not sure what you mean by "consider people as individuals". You say I "judge them as part of a group". How so? Because they are ignorant and gullible in this area of their lives? Again, this stems from your inability to comprehend descriptive words. It's a FACT that people that are Christians are ignorant because they don't know how to think properly (no critical thinking, or very little applied), and gullible (believe without testing information correctly). These are FACTS, not "judgments", per se. Delusional is also descriptive.
Really, dude?

Yes, it's child abuse to indoctrinate your children to believe in imaginary friends. When you deny them the ability to think critically, and instead attempt to warp their worldview into a fallacious one, based on things that don't exist, that is mental child abuse. You should be ashamed, but you think it's ok to have imaginary friends as an adult, so I guess you won't feel that way, unfortunately. Sad, dude.

You said: "They believe (or don't) because they choose to." -- You don't choose your beliefs. Your beliefs are based on how well you educate your brain and understand the world around you. If you don't teach yourself how to think properly (e.g. YOU), then you have someone that has imaginary friends as an adult. It's not necessarily because you CHOSE to have imaginary friends (Jesus, a god, etc), it's because your brain doesn't know any better... either willfully (most likely) or because you are incapable of learning for some reason.
Positing of Christianity is a product of one's ignorance and gullibility... like any theist-based religion.

9/11 was motivated by a few things, and one of them was religion where they thought they would go to a better place, with virgins to play with, if they take out as many people as possible with their shenanigans. Is that good evidence for you? Want more?

Sure, we can be done. If you don't understand why you're delusional, then I can understand that you don't see the logic in what I'm typing. Sad.

Comment Re:Not all religions are bad (Score 0) 910

At what point did call you a name? Citation needed.

"That's quite a statement." -- Yup, it was: And a very accurate one at that.

"Get past someone's beliefs"? ..What's that supposed to mean? Does that mean that I shouldn't ridicule someone's fallacious beliefs when they make me aware of them? You, sir, are gravely mistaken. Any responsible, caring individual that's part of mankind will take every opportunity possible to expose fallacious beliefs. I'm not sure what world you live in, but in my world we have people flying planes into buildings, killing thousands of people when they are motivated by fallacious beliefs. That, right there, is your evidence (I could cite hundreds more examples) of fallacious beliefs that are harmful to humanity. Let me know if you need more, k? Alright then.

I've told you why fallacious beliefs are bad for people and all of mankind. It's my business because I CARE about mankind. You can't "force" beliefs on others, you can only share them - and when you share your fallacious beliefs, I will share how ridiculous they are and how you should learn how to think properly.

Problem?

p.s. I was using HTML.. switched to plain text.. see if that helps with the formatting.

Comment Re:Not all religions are bad (Score 0) 910

Unfortunately your conclusion is fallacious, since your reasoning is fallacious. Yes, I ascribe evil to delusional beliefs. Why wouldn't they be? First we must conclude that fallacious beliefs = bad. That's not hard to do. Next, you're saying that people are NOT good? They certainly are, in a general sense. All all people good? Of course not. Some people ARE bad, but why? Usually due to chemical imbalance, other anomalies of the brain/etc. Much different than the force of religion, which any reasonable person can see is bad for mankind. Yes, a bad person can use religion in order to attempt to justify doing bad things, sure (e.g. Hitler), but the fact that religion is held sacred and can motivate people to do bad things does NOT mean I'm saying people can't be bad, just that religion itself is bad and promotes unethical and immoral behavior. If we got rid of religion, we'd make the world a better place, but that doesn't mean we'd rid the world of all bad/evil.. just a HUGE chunk of it. This is called GOOD reasoning. Please don't put words in my mouth, thank you. What I've said is realistic, and you haven't shown otherwise. Please insert another quarter and try again.

Comment Re:Not all religions are bad (Score 0) 910

I never said nor implied that it is the "sole" cause of evil. That's your inaccurate interpretation based not on words that would imply that from me, but from what you wanted to see.
Religion doesn't really do any good. It really doesn't. Name me ONE thing religion does that's good? I'd love to hear it. So far you've only mentioned the stuff men have done. Are you trying to say religion inspired those good things? How so? In what way? I can show you how religion inspired people to do bad things. Can you show me otherwise? You haven't so far. Perhaps you can site certain passages in certain "holy books" that say to do good things, and maybe some people have done good things references those, sure. Does that somehow make religion good? We can certainly cite more events that such books/beliefs have been used to do more horrible things that out-weigh those "good things".. so even if we could show some good things, which will be few, we can show a LOT of bad things.... which pretty much blows away your attempt to say religion somehow does a lot of good, which it doesn't and you cannot show otherwise, now can you?
Sure, people can be bad. But if religion is believed by people (a fallacious set of beliefs), and those fallacious set of beliefs tell them to do horrible things, and they do them... are you saying we can't blame a fallacious set of beliefs they bought into? Are we to blame their ignorance and gullibility for believing in religion in the first place? We shouldn't blame the creation of religion to take advantage of their ignorance and gullibility? If religion exists DUE to people's ignorance and gullibility, which I assure you it does, I think we can blame religion very much for people doing horrible things, since it does motivate them to do that. You can get a good person to do bad things with religion. You don't seem to get this.
People are generally good, and want to be good, yes. Religion can cause people to do bad things. I'm not saying all people are good, but generally they are. I'm not a "hypocrite" for saying this. This is reality.

Comment Re:Not all religions are bad (Score 0) 910

I don't recall using the word "force". I said "caused", or perhaps "motivates" is better for you? You seem to like to change words around. Sorry, but being religious, especially a Christian, is lying to yourself and others. Well, lying means you know you're telling a lie, so we can use the word "delusional" instead, if you'd like. In any case, sure, you might be a "Christian", and you might acknowledge the obvious science of evolution, but the fact remains that you have imaginary friends, and that's "lying about reality" or "delusional", if you may. You can't get around the fact that you are willfully ignorant and gullible in this area of your life at least (and it's known to spill over into other areas of people's lives). You can't answer questions about reality with delusion in an effective manner. Anyone that posits imaginary friends, like you do, contributes to the degradation of society/mankind. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. The moderates are just as blame-worthy as the ones that do the crimes. We should not give shelter to others, we should not give comfort that it's ok to believe in some BS and not question it correctly. You said you "believe in things that are real to me". Sorry, but reality doesn't care about what's real "to you". It has its own set of what's "real", and you must use your ability to reason to decipher and achieve the best interpretation of reality that you can. You believe in gods, yet reality doesn't reflect gods, so who's right? You, or reality? Yes, people do the horrible things, but I told you that religion can motivate people to do those bad things unlike any other system. You can't blame people themselves and disregard religion for it's part. Religion has a large part in it, and is an evil force that needs to be educated out of society. I'll tell you that you are lying to yourself, that you are delusional, because you have.. ready for this? .... NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT YOUR RIDICULOUS CLAIMS! That's right.. no scientific evidence. I don't have to wait for your ignorant, gullible self to "convert" me. Once you open your mouth and say that you are delusional (saying you are a Christian), I have every right to tell you that you harbor fallacious beliefs that must be taken care of by a professional. I would raise my kids to use critical thought. I don't have "beliefs" like you do. I go by what shows to exist. Since you admitted to wanting to raise your kids with your fallacious beliefs, then you have admitted to wanting to cause child abuse to your children. You want to brainwash/indoctrinate them, and deny them the right/ability to learn how to question life correctly via logic/critical thought. I feel sorry for them, and hope you never procreate until you learn about reality better. Yes, you have the right to believe as you wish, but that doesn't mean you should be free from ridicule. I have the right to ridicule and call out and expose your inability to think correctly, which could effect other people's lives in a horrible way. We won't be "doing away with religion", we'll be doing away with the BELIEF IN RELIGION. We'll still have the history there to tell us that we were ignorant and gullible, and we'll be better off without religion. Yes, I do know that doing away with fallacious beliefs are better for mankind. Yes, there is a difference between knowledge and belief. You go by irrational belief, I go by knowledge (reality, science). Please learn that your god is nothing more than YOU, something in YOUR imagination... it doesn't really exist. godisimaginary dot com.

Comment Re:Not all religions are bad (Score 1) 910

I never said religion was the "sole force" in what turns good men bad. Why would you put words in my mouth? Trying to change my words in order to take a stance that would seem to be beneficial to your cause? Thusly, it makes no sense to say that non-religious people have done bad things. I'm sure they have. I made a point that religion can cause good people to do horrible things or bad things. This is true. Sorry, but the tiny "good" things one can think of are completely out-weighed by the horrible things it does, has done, and will probably continue to do. Lying to people about reality is never a good thing. It's not religion that has contributed to art, music, medicine, etc etc.. it is the people themselves. People lying to themselves about how reality works doesn't get someone to create a good piece of art. It's their imagination, creativeness and intellect. No, it's not dishonest to KNOW that religion is bad. You haven't shown one example otherwise. You've made some baseless assertions about what you think religion has done - and it hasn't done any of those things. When you believe in crap that's not real, when you lie to yourself, attempt to indoctrinate children and brainwash others, when you fly planes into buildings, when you tell others it's ok to believe in a god without questioning (without learning how to think critically), yes, those are bad things, and they continue to hurt society and all of mankind. Yes, people can be bad... but religion can cause a good person to be bad. Do away with religion, educate people, and the world will be much better.

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