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Comment Re:Matthew Garrett FTW! (Score 2) 274

I kinda agree, but from some answers here I'm starting to think that what should've been there from the beginning isn't a shim, but an alternate root signer / signing infrastructure not controlled by Microsoft. Some key Linux players were offered the chance to maintain this, but they declined. The technology launched with just one signer, and thus this confusion began, where everyone and their dog think that because every x86 mobo comes with MS keys, and the only signer is MS, then UEFI == MS. Which is not.

If the EFF/FSF/LF or for the matter (least preferably) Red Hat or Canonical would support a keysigning infrastructure, things would be more balanced, but they would have to divert their resources to do that, and be accountable for the binaries they sign. Instead they willingly choose to let Microsoft to be the one signer around.

Regarding ARM, it sucks, but it's exactly the same any other ARM player has done, and subject to the same circumstances.

Comment Re:How does this work? (Score 1) 274

No you don't understand. Microsoft isn't administering UEFI, they happen to be the only root signer *for now* because for some reason Red Hat and other who were offered to be root signers too *declined the offer*. So do everyone a favor and please inform yourself before posting, particularly before posting that you are informed.

Comment Re:Fuck secure boot. (Score 2) 274

If what you say is true, it would certainly complete the picture.

It still wouldn't mean the certification is not retarded, but it would certainly show the real direction for the FLOSS communities to push for. I began instinctively taking UEFI / SB as something "bad / anti freedom" mainly because of how it was tainted by Microsoft being the only root signer available at the launch of the technology, their certification program, and the inexcusable fact that they forbid disabling SB / managing keys in the ARM platform. But also, and not the least because I completely ignored how the technology works and the background (like BMO and such show clearly here).

There's huge amounts of misinformation, as we can see in this very same thread, where sensationalistic posts like "FUCK UEFI" get all the eyes and everyone goes idiotic "ZOMG DIE MS SHILL" at the slightest attempt of analysis and information gathering that is the basis for any real solution.

All this current whinning crap won't help us to get anywhere, apart from one or two assholes thinking for a day they are raising the glorious flag of freedom. It is imperative that we start educating ourselves and reach consensus towards more robust solutions; IMO this shim is good, for now, as a temporary one. I long for a more robust and permanent solution which I now begin to think could be, like you say, in the form of a signing infrastructure maintained by some big FLOSS player, like EFF/FSF/LF, and with acceptance by the OEMs and manufacturers.

Comment Re:Fuck secure boot. (Score 4, Informative) 274

No, no, no. You got it wrong.

I hate this whole kerfuffle as much as everybody, but the part about not being able to load self signed keys isn't correct. You can load self-signed keys into the UEFI boot key-store right from the UEFI UI. Of course that will prevent Windows 8+ from booting, but that's another story. You can disable it altogether, with the same result.

So you can either disable secure boot or have your own chain of trust separated from Microsoft and boot other OSes. BUT if you want to boot Windows 8+ you have to enable it and use Microsoft's chain of trust, and is in THAT case, when you want to also boot other OSes you must have the other OSes bootloaders signed by Microsoft.

This shim bootloader represents a convenience to the users of that specific case (which indeed is the most common one). They have a "generic" Microsoft-signed bootloader along with some tools to extend a chain of trust from that bootloader to another one, and this second one won't have to get through the dreaded certification process (which indeed forces you to use Windows).

The problem here is NOT UEFI / SECURE BOOT. The problem is MICROSOFT CERTIFICATION PROGRAM. That's where they boicott the whole industry, and where they should be given a fight. That stupid certification process they combined with a twisted use of the new capabilities of UEFI. Make no mistakes, shouldn't UEFI exist today, they would still be looking for ways to exploit their certification program to make manufacturers do anything they want, just so they can bless them with being "Win compatible". THAT is the great lie right there, by which they have the industry inexplicably grabbed by the balls.

The solution of course would be everyone giving the finger to Microsoft on their fucking certification program, and a more open competition would arise. I very much want to see how long they last on that environment.


Submission + - A hero of Linux on his last leg of life - unless we help! ( 7

bastiji writes: "

Ken Starks of HeliOS fame is down, but not out yet. His cancer is about to spread to a lethal condition, and only surgery can prevent it. Prevention is possible but due to the stupid healthcare system we have in this country, he can't afford it.

Read the link for the sordid details and do what you can to help someone who's helped thousands selflessly.

Here's another Slashdot link about him:"


Submission + - Nokia hits junk credit rating ( 1

arielCo writes: "Quoth the International Business Times UK, among other sources: 'Nokia has had its creditworthiness downgraded to junk status by ratings company Moody's Investors Service after the troubled Finnish communications giant announced thousands of jobs cuts and warned of second quarter losses that are likely to be worse than expected. [...] Moody's had already warned in April that Nokia faced a downgrade to Ba1 — junk status — from Baa3, with a negative outlook.'"

Submission + - In Soviet Russia Pussy Riot goes to jail (

dark-br writes: A Moscow judge has sentenced each of three members of the provocative punk band Pussy Riot to two years in prison on hooliganism charges following a trial that has drawn international outrage.

Today's sentence comes amid a wave of protests around the world in support of the feminist rockers.

The judge said in the verdict that the three band members "committed hooliganism driven by religious hatred" and offended religious believers.

Submission + - Dark Knight forever? 1

An anonymous reader writes: Yesterday I stopped by a local theater to talk to a friend. The theater was in the process of swapping out its last film projectors for digital, and there were still long strips of film everywhere in the projection room, plus the old splicing machines, etc. Friend hands me a souvenir, which turns out to be the 2:30 trailer for Dark Knight Rises, tightly wound on a spindle and still bearing the studio seal on piece of tape holding it together. My questions: How can I best preserve this long-term? and, is it likely to increase in value over the years or should I plan on selling it soon?

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